Posted by Maclochlan on December 17, 1999 at 06:19:49:
In Reply to: hm.. where the hell were you??? posted by Sierothe on December 16, 1999 at 16:13:33:
> > > opponent #1 Palan > Well, for one thing, I would kick his ass, well that s not true, but at least i stand a chance. Uh, no. What makes you think armor lessens damage? AC only makes you harder to hit. At hero level it means next to nothing (as does hitroll). So he'd still be getting those DEVASTATES. Hole number one in your argument. > Third, of all the times I fought Palan, hit/dam ave 20, AC 190, it sucks Well, hmm, let's see...considering Tamuera deleted well before Palan's axe even got really huge, I'd say you did better against him for that reason. And then, you died to him ANYWAYS, giving his axe more power. > Where were you, i wonder.. hm.. that s right, like most people, they either quit or just aint there. Fuck you Sierothe. Just because I don't lose 4 con in one night because I'm stupid and whine after I die instead re-equipping doesn't mean I don't play. Ask Palan how many times he killed me (or almost killed me, I think I got away once?) The times he killed me, I had absolutely no chance. None. Nothing I could have done would have saved my life. Did I still try to fight him? Yes. Why? Because that's what a Rager does. > Yes, I did that, the problem was i had no gear... I had 4 pieces of gear, since Palan justed killed me that day That DAY? I would buy this if Palan had killed you 5 minutes beforehand (that you only had 4 pieces of gear) but that DAY? > He was lich already, he had an invoker with him. > But the point is, if i had more gear, the lich would be dead. See, after reading what Zorszaul says about this, and you talking all sorts of smack, I'm simply inclined to believe Zorszaul and not you. I had a full set of gear, beautiful gear, and got OBLITERATED by Degin's pillar 3 times. Through spellbane and bloodthirst. In the village. Suck it up and deal with it. I've killed Korthalos at least once, maybe more times. So it's possible. > Yes, i still think Gear matters. Nobody said equipment doesn't help. We said equipment doesn't make as much difference at hero as it does at 30. I'm also saying you are too fixated on gear to be a good rager. > For my next rager, I hope you and Takashimi would give me your gear when i die, since gear does not matter to you both that much. Heh actually, I just DID give Takashimi roughly 1/3 of my gear the other night (bracelet of longevity, as one piece) because my roleplay is such that if I feel I failed someone I respect, I must atone. The eq was a small part of that atonement. Would I give my equipment to your next char in ragers? I don't know. Since I'm finding it hard to believe Mac would ever respect any one of your chars (Keikochan's interview with me was a fucking joke), probably not. Would I give up gear to Gelkof or Kobaine (or others, these are examples) if Mac felt he caused their death? Damn right. > I am sure Takashimi would love to give me his darken stuff, a wasp blade or two and other goodies I don't know what Takashimi would do, but I know I'd consider giving you anything a waste. Giving something to someone with brains is something different.
> Second thing, instead of him, devaste, demolish.. etc.. it would be Mangle or Masscre.
> when i had my best gear, i managed to do damn well, got him to bleeding wounds, then he fled while Yagar and Tamuera stayed and fight
> Yagar fled later, Tamuera died, and Palan came back perfect health and killed me, while i was alone (all the time) defending
As others have said...by the time you re-enter pk range you should have a decent (not great) set of clothes. As far as I remember, Sierothe was neutral. You've got half a set of clothes not 20 rooms from your cabal if you kill the stone golems. Plus the wyvern place for a few more pieces, frigid to get yourself a spear (how many fucking times did I grab you a spear or staff, Sierothe, for you to say I was never around?)
> I was fighting both of them and shit loads of zombies.
> I almost killed the invoker and he worded... It was done to the lich and zombies.
> I drove them left and right, lag them i did, he was bleeding like a pig, but always manages to flee and goes to the zombies and summons me.
> the driving the.. crushing blow, Pummel starts all over again.
> Mean while, Nesam, is plagued in the shrine, with negative movement, Kitratik died, still a ghost and still could have sing some songs to help me, but he did not.
> other ragers were watching, Esach or Lecrucious were around, they said i fought well, and i did.
> I have, they still get those damn spells in.
> every round i scratch them, they get one spell off, and its like unspeakable things...
> Given Transformation, and allll the spells, you have to lag them for oh.. like 1000 rounds scratching them, then you can kill them
> I have perfected most of the skills, and we all know they dont connect all the time, 3 unspeakable things, and i died...
> Instead of scratching, I would still Multilate and Dismember at best.. and it would help if my hp was 1500 ( with darken stuff etc )rather than 900 ( with red dragon and stuff)