Re: Ihlrath

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Posted by The Arcane on December 20, 1999 at 19:01:41:

In Reply to: Re: Ihlrath posted by Knight at that time on December 20, 1999 at 18:47:40:

> 1. He was not given force duel until he nearly hero'd, and he'd been fearsome *long* before that.

He's a very skilled player. I'm not saying otherwise. He did better than I could have, at the time, with what he had available to him.

> 2. There were plenty of warrior Knights with FD (Lachdanan, Challen), none of whom were half so fearsome as Ihlrath. Unless you feel Lachdanan and Challen were less than chimps? :P

Given that I *was* Challen, no comment. :P

> 3. Surely you think it's a little bit of stretching to lay all of Ihlrath's deadliness
on having a tattoo. Don't you?

All? No. A *large* amount? Yes. I think you underestimate the advantage afforded by being able to haste oneself AND slow one's foe. An arial sword spec, hasted, can beat basically any slowed fighting class, regardless of gear, even naked except for dragonswords. I could win FDs as Challen, naked except for two dragonswords, and that's without haste/slow. With, it'd have been a joke.

> 4. I doubt, from watching Ihlrath kill many, many times, that more than half his kills came from FD.

Granted, if you wish. I wasn't looking over his shoulder.

> 5. It was a long time ago, but didn't the Imms make it so that the weapons didn't heal during a FD?

Except against Ragers and Masters, yes.

> 6. Call me crazy, but based on what you just said versus what actually happened so far as Ihlrath and his pking, I'd say you have some sort of bias against him.

Well, I saw him do a number of things that basically took away all my respect for Ihlrath as a character. It became evident that the purpose of the character was to rack up PKWins, and not to contribute to Thera. Three off the top of my head:

1) Taking something like 4 con off a naked Iomahk in two hours, running into the warrior's bar and FDing him every time he unghosted.

2) After force dueling Woru while wanted, and losing, coming back and force dueling him while he was grouped with me and about to enter Hell. That's pure OOC revenge.

3) Stunning Arolin, having Amergin dispel, slow, soften, and hold him, and then force duelling him. Uhh... sure, that's honorable.

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Re: Your Three: Knight at the Time 19:43:49 12/20/99 (4)
- You are forgetting one huge and undeniable difference: Graatch(VIP) 21:33:18 12/20/99 (3)
  - Re: The Difference KatTime 00:28:45 12/21/99 (2)
    - Quick note The Arcane 08:47:58 12/21/99 (1)
      - Yeah, well -- Me again 18:57:28 12/21/99 (0)

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Comments:	> > 1. He was not given force duel until he nearly hero'd, and he'd been fearsome long before that. > He's a very skilled player. I'm not saying otherwise. He did better than I could have, at the time, with what he had available to him. > > 2. There were plenty of warrior Knights with FD (Lachdanan, Challen), none of whom were half so fearsome as Ihlrath. Unless you feel Lachdanan and Challen were less than chimps? :P > Given that I was Challen, no comment. :P > > 3. Surely you think it's a little bit of stretching to lay all of Ihlrath's deadliness > on having a tattoo. Don't you? > All? No. A large amount? Yes. I think you underestimate the advantage afforded by being able to haste oneself AND slow one's foe. An arial sword spec, hasted, can beat basically any slowed fighting class, regardless of gear, even naked except for dragonswords. I could win FDs as Challen, naked except for two dragonswords, and that's without haste/slow. With, it'd have been a joke. > > 4. I doubt, from watching Ihlrath kill many, many times, that more than half his kills came from FD. > Granted, if you wish. I wasn't looking over his shoulder. > > 5. It was a long time ago, but didn't the Imms make it so that the weapons didn't heal during a FD? > Except against Ragers and Masters, yes. > > 6. Call me crazy, but based on what you just said versus what actually happened so far as Ihlrath and his pking, I'd say you have some sort of bias against him. > Well, I saw him do a number of things that basically took away all my respect for Ihlrath as a character. It became evident that the purpose of the character was to rack up PKWins, and not to contribute to Thera. Three off the top of my head: > 1) Taking something like 4 con off a naked Iomahk in two hours, running into the warrior's bar and FDing him every time he unghosted. > 2) After force dueling Woru while wanted, and losing, coming back and force dueling him while he was grouped with me and about to enter Hell. That's pure OOC revenge. > 3) Stunning Arolin, having Amergin dispel, slow, soften, and hold him, and then force duelling him. Uhh... sure, that's honorable.

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