Thank you, There is no way I could have put it so eloquently and succinctly. This is what I have been trying to say, but unfortunately, I choose words that people lable as whining...nt

Thank you, There is no way I could have put it so eloquently and succinctly. This is what I have been trying to say, but unfortunately, I choose words that people lable as whining...nt:
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Posted by Grallon on March 27, 2000 at 09:30:36:

In Reply to: Re: Grallon and his selective memory posted by Sylvan Historian on March 27, 2000 at 09:25:32:

> The beauty of the Sylvan cabal used to be that they were different. It was a mix of Arbiters, Dawn, and Troupe. They were protectors of the forests who also tended to be great roleplayers. It wasn't about pking it was about roleplaying and protection. Criticizers(sp) of the early days bring up the mudsex that was involved, but that criticism is generally shallow and misdirected. There were a few*coughEshlinacough* that engaged in the frequent trists in the bushes, but for the most part it was a happy-go-lucky cabal of unique people doing a unique job. Then came the Sermak/Crystanthia and the cabal would never be the same again. During this time period some genius came up with an rp-twist that became a loophole that became a common-rp for a warder. They became Empire with a nature lover's twist. Gang-banging became prevalent, peace and protection was a thing of the past. Roleplay dropped in general. The cabal was no longer unique in its mission.
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> Somewhere along the line there a period of brief respit. This came around the time of Arkand. Roleplay becamse a major part of the cabal once more, and the bloodlust diminished somewhat. There was still the rebel, but by and large they took on that happy-go-lucky treehugger mentality again. Wall of Thorns was much more heavily regulated. Warders weren't allowed to protect the areas they were ranking in by putting a series of walls just outside to stop pk'ers from coming after them, walls weren't allowed on major thoroughfares where an innocent might become trapped in them, and so on.
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> Now a fourth a stage is born. This came largely with the advent of Kadizine's imm what'shisface and then Sebeok. Roleplay is generally kept in high regard(though seeing that Arolin was Ponting leads me to question the integrity of that highhorse that Sylvan members like to place their rp on) and bloodlust was again worked more heavily into the mix. So what you have now is a group of Sermaks and Crystanthias that are rationalizing and legitimizing their place within the cabal by maintaining a higher level of rp. Uniqueness of the cabal is still shot to hell as all you have is the "We hate this and this and we're going to kill them all to prove it" mentality that is part of just about every cabal in CF.
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> Sad really, that all cabals have to be the same at their core, with different roleplaying reasons behind their wanton destruction. Dawn and Troupe are the only cabals that can call themselves unique, and for the most part their laughed at by the playerbase.

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Comments:	> > The beauty of the Sylvan cabal used to be that they were different. It was a mix of Arbiters, Dawn, and Troupe. They were protectors of the forests who also tended to be great roleplayers. It wasn't about pking it was about roleplaying and protection. Criticizers(sp) of the early days bring up the mudsex that was involved, but that criticism is generally shallow and misdirected. There were a fewcoughEshlinacough that engaged in the frequent trists in the bushes, but for the most part it was a happy-go-lucky cabal of unique people doing a unique job. Then came the Sermak/Crystanthia and the cabal would never be the same again. During this time period some genius came up with an rp-twist that became a loophole that became a common-rp for a warder. They became Empire with a nature lover's twist. Gang-banging became prevalent, peace and protection was a thing of the past. Roleplay dropped in general. The cabal was no longer unique in its mission. > > > > Somewhere along the line there a period of brief respit. This came around the time of Arkand. Roleplay becamse a major part of the cabal once more, and the bloodlust diminished somewhat. There was still the rebel, but by and large they took on that happy-go-lucky treehugger mentality again. Wall of Thorns was much more heavily regulated. Warders weren't allowed to protect the areas they were ranking in by putting a series of walls just outside to stop pk'ers from coming after them, walls weren't allowed on major thoroughfares where an innocent might become trapped in them, and so on. > > > > Now a fourth a stage is born. This came largely with the advent of Kadizine's imm what'shisface and then Sebeok. Roleplay is generally kept in high regard(though seeing that Arolin was Ponting leads me to question the integrity of that highhorse that Sylvan members like to place their rp on) and bloodlust was again worked more heavily into the mix. So what you have now is a group of Sermaks and Crystanthias that are rationalizing and legitimizing their place within the cabal by maintaining a higher level of rp. Uniqueness of the cabal is still shot to hell as all you have is the "We hate this and this and we're going to kill them all to prove it" mentality that is part of just about every cabal in CF. > > > > Sad really, that all cabals have to be the same at their core, with different roleplaying reasons behind their wanton destruction. Dawn and Troupe are the only cabals that can call themselves unique, and for the most part their laughed at by the playerbase.

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