Posted by Thooble on March 30, 2000 at 21:28:47:
In Reply to: Courage is only courage when it's done for its own sake posted by Polemachus on March 30, 2000 at 16:20:37:
> It's not courage to face death for fear of being shamed otherwise.
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> At least that's the holding of most of the discourses in the Plato readings I've been assigned this semester for an honor's seminar.
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> So that takes care of the definition of courage as far as the battlerager cabal goes. There has probably NEVER been a battlerager that can be said to have adhered to the above definition, or at least the definition that the above statement implies.
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> This is because the vast majority, if not all, of the battleragers have claimed courageousness or "honor" for fear of being shunned by their peers, ridiculed on this forum, or booted from the village.
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> The problem is that when one acts courageous(or as close to it as they can come) for fear of being shamed, their's is often a flimsy, if not completely rediculous, kind of courage.
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> The above log is pretty sickening to me. The thing is I wouldn't necessarily see it as such if the battleragers didn't use such lame ass excuses and reasons for blatant abuse of whatever code it is they're supposed to be following. If you're going to "tag team" as it has come to be called, admit to it. If you're going to be a gang-banging putz with a pair of frail crystal gonads, admit to it. Don't rationalize your behavior by using excuses that my 3 year old niece could see through.
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> It seems to me that many battleragers need to be babysitted. Perhaps it is necessary to have policies as strenuous as those of the Arbiter cabal, where every action is scrutinized and re-scrutinized.