Posted by Ingvar(VIP) on July 20, 2000 at 15:47:27:
In Reply to: Well, I'm thinking (text) posted by T ot W on July 20, 2000 at 12:28:24:
My interpretation was that Servants profess their beliefs to those who are willing to hear them, whereas Maran try to force their beliefs on anyone they do not consider sufficiently moral. Dawnies were often willing to talk with Ingvar, at least the ones he thought were in the "clever but misguided" bin, instead of the "just doesn't get it" bin. So even within Dawn, there were people Ingvar sought to "turn", and people he just went in swinging against. It depends whether or not he thought you were listening to his argument, or putting fingers in ears and yelling "La la la".
Now Maran, on the other hand, didn't want to hear a word of dogma. (Keep in mind that Ingvar was the Voice (Sphere Purity), not the Flame. Ingvar prioritized spreading the word to the underinformed over trying to con-death anyone, given a choice.) They were more "Blind" in the sense that they only saw their own perspective, and tried to force it on others by any means necessary.
There was also some character-specific stuff, mostly based around what he saw as a "betrayal" (pre-Temple days) by Khiravn, who he saw as one big whopping hypocrite. (This is not the player's opinion.) Also, while Dawnies never came to the Temple, Maran used to. (Again, stopped after Khiravn.) But for the most part, I'd agree with the other poster that Maran are generally more diametrically opposed in philosophy, regardless of Ingvar's specific history.
> Well, I'm thinking that the Scarabs are (and should be) the nemesis of the Maran, but.. should the Maran be the nemesis of the Scarabs? I mean, who is more profane, the Servants, or the Maran? Who is dedicated entirely to seeking out the weak and nuturing/protecting/keeping them alive, and who is more geared towards seeking out the weak (spiritually) and Redeeming them into strength?
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> Anyway, just a curiousity on the Scarab's tenets.