Jesus, Graatch, do you do ANYTHING but bitch?

Jesus, Graatch, do you do ANYTHING but bitch?:
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Posted by Matraien on January 21:19:37, at 0PST:0:0:

In Reply to: Next time, get your facts straight, and maybe you'll get some respect. posted by Diarmuid on January 16:44:57, at 0PST:0:0:

> > Every race, Every class and every cabal and combinations thereof have their own pluses and minuses. How many of you have played one of the others? Or different combinations?

> I've played quite alot of them, actually. Which I'm sure you already know.

> > Diarmuid.. with 2000hp and gets hit for scratches and spells which *if* they hit you do <<>> type damage.

> Oh really? You mean like when I Pillar of the heavens and got EVISCERATE on an ARIAL rager who is VULN to that? Or when I got a decimate (lower case!) on a rager felar who is vuln to water? Yeah, that must be it. Oh, and those were done when they didn't have spellbane up. Not *one* of my spells ever went through spellbane. Never. Not one. I know that it has since been changed and now something like 85% of spells are baned, instead of 100%, so don't respond with that.

> Not very good against a bloodthirsting spellbanes battle assassin who can tiger claw you.

> Don't need to be a rager if you can tiger claw. Any rager berserker thirsting will do. Had nesam in quicksand. Couldn't do a thing to him. Every spell hurt me, not him. Oh, and of course he was hasted, too.

> What were you like against the imperials when you were fighting with them?

> Well, given that most of the empire I fought had black sanc (like 65% dam reduction) as well as all the other various protections, I wasn't getting the big <<<>>>> damage you referred to, either. I got DISMEMBER on Kushsomething (the duerg shaman) with geyser and engulf, again, things he is vuln to. And I was neutral, so his protection didn't even come into it. Just his black sanc and the stone skin from a fillet. So.... get a clue.

> > Wollshithead or whatever his name is.. why have so many people complained about NON master air forms? Because they aren't very easy to kill.. can be done.. but not easily. Now take that airform, triple its hit points and what do you have.. must be so hard for you to win a fight against another air form with the same abilities but 1/3 of the hit points.. you don't even have to spell up to beat them.. you win through the fact that you don't have to do anything.

> > Vonusmere: *sigh* I have read some stuff from other whining useless deadshits before, but you really take the cake. Oh.. you trained mana instead of hp's so you could abuse masters powers.. but it doesn't work if you don't have the orb? *boggle* So you want masters powers to work without the orb? *boggle*
> > Just to give you an example from a ragers point of view. Lets just say a level thirtysomething Master Conjurer come raid. That would mean you should have about 250-300 base hp? Add on some rather basic gear and you will have 400 odd. Some rather basic mana stuff and you will have a kick arse water elemental and some form of devil or angel or archon? Add in some wands, stone skin, maybe a couple of invokers shields if you are friends with the right person, etc
> > Lets take the dwarven warrior fighting you.. Probably have 600-700hp base +100from eq. He will hit you for 4 devestates a round max. You water elemental will hit for a mangle or 2 and a **DEV** Geyser every second round. So even without scourge or transform.. you are kind of on par.. it then comes down to skill and luck. Throw in transform and scourge and it is not so even. I just saw someone in town take out 3 people with a croaker demon and water elemental.. 2 at least were ragers.
> > And you are down to 14 con? that means you will probably lose 1 hp each level, lose that for a warrior and they will lose 4 or 5 hp per level.. but thats their bread and butter.. yours in mana.

> > There are a lot of other things that I would say here but I just can't be bothered. You say to me, why don't I try your side.. I am. I am currently level an gnome transmuter towards hero. And I have never found any character so easy in my life.. and he is not a master. Sure I have to look out for ragers, but it is not even that difficult. When I get my major form, I am sure I will still have to watch out for ragers, but at least I will be able to run away, something that I have gotten to be very good at with the character.

> > Anyway, I have bored you all for long enough. I just had to get that off my chest.

> > Just give it a break on the whining and do something about it.

> > Moindardt
> > I really wish shadow would be brought back!

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Comments:	> > > Every race, Every class and every cabal and combinations thereof have their own pluses and minuses. How many of you have played one of the others? Or different combinations? > > I've played quite alot of them, actually. Which I'm sure you already know. > > > Diarmuid.. with 2000hp and gets hit for scratches and spells which if they hit you do <<>> type damage. > > Oh really? You mean like when I Pillar of the heavens and got EVISCERATE on an ARIAL rager who is VULN to that? Or when I got a decimate (lower case!) on a rager felar who is vuln to water? Yeah, that must be it. Oh, and those were done when they didn't have spellbane up. Not one of my spells ever went through spellbane. Never. Not one. I know that it has since been changed and now something like 85% of spells are baned, instead of 100%, so don't respond with that. > > Not very good against a bloodthirsting spellbanes battle assassin who can tiger claw you. > > Don't need to be a rager if you can tiger claw. Any rager berserker thirsting will do. Had nesam in quicksand. Couldn't do a thing to him. Every spell hurt me, not him. Oh, and of course he was hasted, too. > > What were you like against the imperials when you were fighting with them? > > Well, given that most of the empire I fought had black sanc (like 65% dam reduction) as well as all the other various protections, I wasn't getting the big <<<>>>> damage you referred to, either. I got DISMEMBER on Kushsomething (the duerg shaman) with geyser and engulf, again, things he is vuln to. And I was neutral, so his protection didn't even come into it. Just his black sanc and the stone skin from a fillet. So.... get a clue. > > > Wollshithead or whatever his name is.. why have so many people complained about NON master air forms? Because they aren't very easy to kill.. can be done.. but not easily. Now take that airform, triple its hit points and what do you have.. must be so hard for you to win a fight against another air form with the same abilities but 1/3 of the hit points.. you don't even have to spell up to beat them.. you win through the fact that you don't have to do anything. > > > Vonusmere: sigh I have read some stuff from other whining useless deadshits before, but you really take the cake. Oh.. you trained mana instead of hp's so you could abuse masters powers.. but it doesn't work if you don't have the orb? boggle So you want masters powers to work without the orb? boggle > > > Just to give you an example from a ragers point of view. Lets just say a level thirtysomething Master Conjurer come raid. That would mean you should have about 250-300 base hp? Add on some rather basic gear and you will have 400 odd. Some rather basic mana stuff and you will have a kick arse water elemental and some form of devil or angel or archon? Add in some wands, stone skin, maybe a couple of invokers shields if you are friends with the right person, etc > > > Lets take the dwarven warrior fighting you.. Probably have 600-700hp base +100from eq. He will hit you for 4 devestates a round max. You water elemental will hit for a mangle or 2 and a DEV Geyser every second round. So even without scourge or transform.. you are kind of on par.. it then comes down to skill and luck. Throw in transform and scourge and it is not so even. I just saw someone in town take out 3 people with a croaker demon and water elemental.. 2 at least were ragers. > > > And you are down to 14 con? that means you will probably lose 1 hp each level, lose that for a warrior and they will lose 4 or 5 hp per level.. but thats their bread and butter.. yours in mana. > > > There are a lot of other things that I would say here but I just can't be bothered. You say to me, why don't I try your side.. I am. I am currently level an gnome transmuter towards hero. And I have never found any character so easy in my life.. and he is not a master. Sure I have to look out for ragers, but it is not even that difficult. When I get my major form, I am sure I will still have to watch out for ragers, but at least I will be able to run away, something that I have gotten to be very good at with the character. > > > Anyway, I have bored you all for long enough. I just had to get that off my chest. > > > Just give it a break on the whining and do something about it. > > > Moindardt > > > I really wish shadow would be brought back!

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