Posted by Master on January 19, 2000 at 02:03:11:

In Reply to: Oh, really? posted by Ismail on January 19, 2000 at 01:30:38:

> > Transform lasts longer than barrier...but
> > Barrier lasts long enough to control it well in my opinion.
> > If you use transform you have about the same proportion
> > of hp to resistance as the barriered arcana.
>
> This isn't completely right, you still can benefit
> from both transform and barrier if you think a little

i dont see how, you either have 1 or the other, if you on 50% and lose transfom, you can either barrier and be on full or transform to be on full, there is not much advantage having both options.

> > However, once your hurt, the empire only takes
> >half the time to heal up the hp!

> Not sure that I got it.. If you mean healing
> tranformed hp's is slower that's correct but again
> see above

well, lets say you have 1800hp and the empire has 1000hp
lets also say the master just transforms, so there is like 20+ tics on it.
they both go and raid or fight
they both take the SAME amount of damage
where they both could flee on 200hp.
the empire needs to sleep up 800hp
while the master needs to sleep up 1600hp

> > It actually makes sence for a master to forsake
> >the transform spell completly.

> Heh heh

This is true, for an elite player, this is true, if you do not get it, then your not an elite player...simple.

> > Not only that but the empire heals mana
> >twice as quick too. (orderly mind)

> I can't remember ANY accident, when I (as a trannie)
> lost fight because of the small mana level

I dont understand that, the point of the initial comment was just comparing the cabal powers and empire get better mana regen.

>
> > The empire can also resist up quicker,
> >3 wands in 3 rounds, not 6.

> As empire mages would've killed for transform
> I would've killed for evoke.. But if you are going
> to put up your protections DURING the fight
> I feel sorry for its end

This is a very silly comment. A good arcane citizen would not kill for transform, if he couldnt use barrier.

Examples of why evoke rocks.
1) unexpected cabal raid, time is crucial
2) you are spelled up, but not fully wanded up and say on the eastern, suddenly you see a pk you been after. Evoke, Evoke, pursue
3) you have every other resistance and spell up, and your in a pk, barrier falls, its often a good idea to just evoke the barrier in a pk. you only lose 1 round and keep up the pressure.
4) you can evoke anti-alignment items.

> > Scourge and volley are .. both useless against ragers.

> Uh heh really?

for invokers and trannys who cant summon anti-thirst mobs, they then have trouble getting areas on ragers...I would need to speak to an invoker if they think there area spells are spellbaned less than scourge...Could be that if scourge has lost its spellcraft, then maybe its gets spellbaned easier than pillar, etc

> > With the exception of conjurers. Trannys and invokers are far more powerful in empire.

> Let me remember.. Who won the last Empire/Master

well, masters had barrier....hello?

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