Posted by thinker on February 27, 2000 at 13:44:17:
In Reply to: Read this one first :P posted by Cathoir on February 25, 2000 at 19:58:34:
If your playing your definded role and that role goes aginst the cabal policies, then expect an ic response from an imm. For the example of being a courrupt arbiter it wouldn't be a far reach for an Arbiter imm or even and arbiter lord to drum you out for being courrupt. If you ask but how does the imm know? Then the answer is Thera is a world with gods, the deities can easly be "all knowing". I don't think they will deny you access or anything of that sort, but being uninducted is an ic response. Another example a battle with the role of being a coward. Being uninducted for being cowardly would be something reasonable to happen.
> Okay, i'm really tired and for some reason totally missed the ideas in your message first time I read it. Some things I still don't get then. Does it make it okay to break cabal rules and not be tossed by an imm immediately if you're a follower of Jullias? Clearly the imm can snoop your sphere and tattoo... and will know that you're just trying to cause dissention by being there (or at the very least, you're completely not loyal to the cabal). What's the difference between the imm snooping this and tossing you from the imm catching you interacting with an enemy and tossing you? Since an imms power over a mortal seems pretty absolute this seems a silly way to differentiate right from wrong. Personally, I would say that it is the mortal cabal leaders job to deal with such renegades (I remember trying to deal with corrupt arbiters as Bastian, was fairly interesting). Either way, I don't think you should have to penalize writing a compelte role for fear of being watched more closely by your cabal imms. Just my thoughts on this...
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> I'm not clear on something. Are you talking about the rules of the cabal or the rules of thera? For example, an arbiter taking a bribe and removing flag is not cheating so far as I know, as long as it's done totally ic. Or on the other side, a citizen breaking the law when he gets the chance to do it quietly isn't breaking the rules of the mud, only the cabal. Are you saying that a snooping imm will uninduct for these infractions still? I think both of these types of characters are valid char concepts... but writing such things into your role would just make an imm of your cabal watch you more closely, if they are waiting to uninduct you for it. It would seem wrong that somebody would have to leave part of their role out to try and effectively play a character.
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> I'm on Hiatus and haven't dealt with roles much yet but the basis of roleplaying and rules is still the same so:
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Two things:
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1) The rules/laws for Cabals are for more than just role-playing, they are to balance the cabals as well. So you won't be allowed to get away with getting caught breaking the rules just because its your role.
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2) You can still play this role, its a valid role. But you have to know that Imms aren't going to let you break the rules so you will eventually get caught and kicked out. You then have to live with the consequences of your role as it takes your character out of your cabal.
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> Quick question. I'm never quite sure what a cabal imm can do while snooping. Say your roleplay is a corrupt arbiter or empire member who cares nothing for imperial law. I've seen members of these cabals busted for such things... so should these things be hidden even in your role description? I'm never quite sure of the extent of what an imm will or wont do in these situations.
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