Posted by SphereMaker(IMM) on March 8, 2000 at 17:38:21:
In Reply to: Don't give me that crap posted by Bemus-ed on March 8, 2000 at 15:37:19:
> You still hold the cheating my site did 4-5 years ago against us.
The cheating from 4-5 years ago has minimal impact on you being exploration banned. Does it color the judgment around recent cheating? I'm sure it does. See below for further explanation.
> It was sad how hard you (plural) try to find errors in our way (Re: Shannagen/Yagar), really sad.
I wasn't around for that deletion, so I can't even comment on why it happened.
> I think your ideology is that if you can keep finding bogus things like this then that is reason enough to keep us on the ban list.
Unless I'm mistaken, you guys have been warned on several occasions to end the permagrouping (which finally had to be explicitly stated in the rules with the hopes that you would some day understand that we were serious about it). You continue to do it. Honestly, I've gotten to the point where I can't tell one of your characters from the next. We have you playing the dominatrix and Arolin playing your bitch over and over and over and over again. It even reached ridiculous levels with Yagar throwing himself through death's door just to save Palan's axe.
I think the problem is that you guys have never understood the spirit of this game, which is why you've continuously refused to ignore the rules we've laid down. And I honestly think that until you realize that and move on, you're going to continue to smash into the same brick wall again and again. This isn't a matter of holding a grudge, it's a matter of frustration that you continue to flaunt your disregard for the guidelines we've given you.
> The *only* reason we are banned is that you and a couple of other Immortals hold personal grudges against us.
See above. You're merely frustrating. I'm actually to the point where I don't give a shit if you ever figure out how to play this game now. The only reason I'm responding here on the Forum is so that other people don't make the same mistake.
> I assume it is how you get your rocks off, by waving your magic power-tripping wand and denying us the right to enter certain areas, that's fine.
If you really believe that, you might as well quit playing.
> Just stop throwing all these wafer-thin claims at us and tell us what you really think and why we are really banned.
Just did. We can continue to perform this same tired dance if you want, or you can accept that we're not going to put up with the permagroup shit and just accept it and do something more productive. Maybe you don't know how to play CF any other way. Maybe it's too important to try and figure out how to come up with some dominating duo that you ultimately don't really care if you get denied time and time again. It's not like the Immortals are the only ones that recognize what you're doing. The bulk of the player base can recognize you two with every incarnation because you've never changed. Ok, Ayalith ran around by himself for a while and then deleted after Khiravn killed him. Ok, Dazz sucked for a while then deleted after Zorszaul killed him. Maybe you're right. Maybe you've learned not to permagroup and have changed your ways. If that's true, I applaud you, and predict that you won't run into any further problems with the people that run this game. Although you attach yourself to an Implementor from time to time claiming them as your champion (until they deny you, then you move to another one), I don't think any Immortals believe you to be the victims of some personal grudge, unjust persecution, or bad hair days. I challenge you to find even one Immortal that thinks you're innocent or a victim in all this. It's a mess, I agree. But it's a mess of your own making.