Posted by Bligwerth on March 17, 2000 at 07:44:52:
In Reply to: You obviously haven't played a thief. Stop talking before you lose all credibility. N/T posted by Chalupah on March 17, 2000 at 07:31:47:
Yeah, forgot that honestly... Its been a while since I was a thief.
> > Well, some of the things you addressed will be in Lichkilling 203, but I'll just hit some points.
> >
> > Well... the thing is the theives are gonna have to be thievish and get in and out with detect hidden or not. Otherwise you just do it while the lich is fighting someone else. If the lich is fighting in town just run up and steal a few things. Organize a brief assault and have the theives steal. The concept is without wands and phylacteries the lich will fall, and not be able to summon his pets to him *to hit your other point.* He may or may not have active phylacteries in all the things you list, but if no one tries to get them away from him, he will be tougher and tougher to kill.
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> > Cranial, you may be right... For some reason I thought it lagged, but misdirect, pincer and lash will be more than enough if you have enough people doing them. 3 people misdirecting and the lich is gonna be pretty damned lagged out, you do the math. If they average 33% success in lagging the lich will be lagged out of every round. Add in the occasional lash and he's doin' nothing.
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> > > > Ok... Here's what you need.
> > > >
> > > > 1) Someone to summon him or disperse him away from his pets.
> > >
> > > 1--How many conji's has he killed...how many deny summoning phylacts can you bet he has?
> > >
> > > 2--As seen in the logs of Isty and Golmagus and Zor and such, Liches have a phylacterie that can call their zombies and pets from anywhere
> > >
> > > > 2) A Warder to insect plague him.
> > >
> > > 3--I can't say why this would not be effective, as they removed the log I showed of it not working.
> > >
> > > > 3) A couple of thieves to follow him around for a day or so before the attack and steal all his inventory on a regular basis.
> > >
> > > 4--how many thieves has he killed, how many detect hidden phylac's can you bet he has, what is the average life span of a thief that gets close enough to steal from him...
> > >
> > > > 4) An invoker, healer, and a trannie for prep spells.
> > > >
> > > > 5) Two-three warriors who can either cranial or misdirect while others lash with whips.
> > >
> > > 5--I have experimented while dueling with friends with Cranial...and perfected, it never lagged them once.
> > >
> > > 6--Misdirect lags the doer 3 rounds wether it works or not, when it works it has the POSSIBILITY of lagging the target 1-2 rounds...do the math
> > >
> > > > After the thieves grab as many wands and phylacteries as they can, have get the lich away from his pets. Then fight him like a creature from Hell except use all lagging attacks. Use normal weapons as he may be shielded/rightous and just lag him to death.