Posted by alrucus on May 8, 2000 at 10:29:04:
In Reply to: Hero's give you money for the healer? *boggle* "Communes will only be done in your god's given shrine" or some such as that n/t posted by me on May 8, 2000 at 09:30:36:
> > > 1) I play alot when we do not have the head...that is fine.
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> > So do I, and so do many others now, as have many others in the past.
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> > > 2) I die alot when the mob of empires raids when I am the only rager on. that is fine.
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> > See above.
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> > > 3) When 5 rager heroes are on, and Me (35) that is fine.
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> > > 4) when Those five rager heroes keep taking the codex, making me defend against 7+ empires....hmmm.
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> > It is their job to take the power from the other cabals, and they do it well. It is our job to defend against empire and the tower and whoever comes.
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> > > 5) when I die to that mob 4 times in one day, and the one time I can not get back to the village in time to defend because I am at 10 hp from trying to reclothe myself, and I get scolded by lauderan for not being there...not so fine.
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> > I'm sure if it came down to the crunch of it, on the facts alone as you have stated, you should have written a note, defended your honor, and perhaps challenge Lauderan to the rites. Perhaps he didn't know your circumstance, perhaps he just doesn't like you. Whichever, it could have been resolved.
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> > > 6) we had a long talk over the cb.
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> > > Basically it was stated that it does not matter if I have to die naked over and over and over and over, I should use stupid tactics to fight a mob on Their terms, or I do not love the village.
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> > Granted, that may or may not be a weakness for Battle. But that is what the village is about. Let people choose whether or not to return is a sliding slope that will lead the cabal down to something similar to the Empire.
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> > If you want to have nice cabal powers, a brotherhood, you must give and take a little. The cabals are all balanced between powers, duties, restrictions. Villagers are about fighting smart, yes, but when it comes to the crunch, courage supercedes it.
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> > > I have played a number of villagers in the past. And this is just stupid. If you keep dieing in the same situation, how is it smart, or good for the village, to die in the same situation again? why not use my assassin skills, grab at least enough to cover half my body, and hunt them one at a time? I asked this, and lauderan threatened to boot me from the Village. Heh, I know he does not have the authority, but his words are the result of a trend I see in the village.
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> > The village of battle isn't just an ordinary viking village where people hide. You are expected to fight and defend, and flee only if you are about to die, if even that. It would help if you didn't keep co-relating the village to other villages in your imagination or history. Accept it for what it is, and play the role.
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> > > heroes bored from no competition, raid everything, the mid ranked ragers (myself alone mostly) get spanked when everyone comes to retreive. Those hero ragers refuse to help us reclothe, or even loan money for food, so we mid ranked ragers(once again, me alone mostly) have to go find our own way. this is fine, as long as we are not threatened, and called cowards just for trying to use tactics to survive rather than just dieing again and again.
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> > Most of the heroes have given me money for the healer when I have asked. I do not expect them to reclothe me, because I can do that myself.
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> > Again, the courage and cowardice in the village are not the same as elsewhere. Battleragers are zealots, fanatics, and will keep dying and dying if it means they would be cowards if they did not.
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> > > Look at it in a totally ooc way. The heroes are doing more to kill off the midranked ragers than anyone else.
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> > Trust me, those same people who can kill you would be killing you even if they had their powers, and even easier I reckon. they'd just hit the giant and wait for you to come running.
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> > > Look at it in an rp way, Why the fuck does it serve to make the village stronger to die the same way 5 times in a night?
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> > Village strength is equated to courage. Science can make a village stronger. deceit can. dishonorable tactics can. cowardice can. Even magic can. But the village is not about being strong through these means, but strong through courage and skill.
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> > > On a side note, I disliked Minalcar's rp. Especially after he accused me of stealing from another ragers corpse, when there were rager witnesses that witnessed me NOT do it, and the fact that Minalcar was off circlejerking it somewhere for all I know. The fact that he fled from a dual twice, then attacked and killed another rager who was hurt from defending with zero warning. all part of his rp I understand, I just did not like it.
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> > He RPs exactly the way a demonic warrior would RP. Most people don't like it, but that's another issue.