Posted by Joshu on May 12, 2000 at 08:01:30:
In Reply to: i'll rise to the bait..... posted by Graham on May 12, 2000 at 07:50:35:
> All comments hereto are my opinions and perceptions only...
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> > Yep...and here is why most of the immortal >staff is disgusted with IRC and we tend to >not be overly helpful if we even bother to >show up. You ruin the game, you undermine a >lot of what goes on in the game...for what? >Just so you can be 'the best' in your mind? >That type of selfish bullshit disgusts me.
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> -A question
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> What is the game about?
> in my eyes it's about interacting with others, having fun, getting a rush, doing something that stimulates the brain.
> IRC is not about being the BEST in the game..well certainly not with any of the people i've spoken to..IRC is about enjoying the game, it's about taking some of the retarded monotonous bullshit events out of cf and making it a more eventful interesting place...
> Or sorry, am i suppose to be on the edge of my seat veins pumping with adrenaline ....killing the 15'000th boring fuck mob that involves me spamming "skill A;b;c"
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> > This comment is nauseating, if there's is >anyone who agrees with Arolin here, please, >do me and yourself a favor and just stop >playing. You'll save someone on the >immstaff the time later on from denying you.
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> me
> again i don't spend my irc time hunting groups but for me the point of CF is not to spend my life at rank 12 sitting on my ass (being roundly ignored by everyone since roleplay opportunities at that rank don't exist)
> if i've been on CF for 2 hours and STILL haven't found a group OR anyone willing to interact for more than a sneeze worth of talk then yes, i bully some ooc friend into maybe trying to group up with me..
> But shit yeah, i should actually waste my phone bill (yes not everyone in the world gets free phone calls) sitting in guild doing NOTHING!
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> > Again, I'm revolted. To hell with exploring and using your brain...just spoonfeed you and you're happy.
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> again you've overlooked his comments, to people able to talk to knowledgeable people your yourself require to be knowledgeable..how does this occur, ah , you have to explore... the cheating typically benefits those that make the most effort in cf, not the loser little shites that sit on their ass and complain bitterly that Map x,y,z isn't posted on the forum....
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> oh yes and most of the irc cheating i know of doesn't ever include asking for maps...these people want to enjoy the game and have fun, this obviously does not precludes not having maps already made out for you since it ruins any interest..after all you'd be just doing more ranking if you walked through the map
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> > By this defintion, my dear misguided >Arolin, you've just defined the 'skilled >players' (those being in the loop) as some >of the most unskilled players of the game. >You've just said that the only way they're >good is through cheating, the only way >they're better than other people, is >through squatting on the game...
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> he didn't say that in the slightest, he said that is how the better players are better informed...people at discos don't want to talk to boring people..
> mudders don't want to talk to clueless newbies..which is more interesting? an informed discussion between equals or mindlessly spooning out info to a newbie?
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> > No you selfish, conceited, arrogant >asshole...they're the people who are >playing the game BY THE RULES . >Imagine that! People playing a game, and >abiding by it's rules...enjoying roleplay, >digging the fantasy landscape and areas in >it...actually playing a >cabal/religion/race/class because >it fits >a role not because 'it'll make me a >killing machine'. Gee...what losers those >people must be...
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> It would be nice if people played by the rules but people do get disillusioned, the fact that nothing happened about that 1 immortal led cheat group despite numerous complaints, even to the extent that he rose in power was when i was personally SICKENED by CF to see such double standard hypocrisy
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> Yes arolin was especially arrogant in his gloating over breaking rules, yes he broke rules that other people wouldn't but we are basically talking about irc as the cheat mode
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> so, in this case you've just labelled a shit load of your ex/current imms, cabal leaders etc as the same thing...(to a lesser degree since they don't gangbang all the time or mulitchar or shit)
> Did they all make the game an intolerable pile of shite?
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> > I'll agree with you here...never be afraid to voice your opinion...no matter how wrong it might be.
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> my opinion is never wrong, it's my opinion, the facts i state however can be wrong.
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> > Want a cookie? You want me to say what I >think? This is what I >think...I think you are a selfish, >misguided, aggravating, undermining, >elitist, pathetic, small-minded, >uncreative, waste of time, worthless little >fuck who doesn't have the slightest idea of >exactly how selfish and vile you are.
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> yes arolin was many of those with regards CF, he was also interesting to talk to about non cf things
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> >You achieve nothing except destroying the >game for others, making the whole idea of >exploration a fucking joke...
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> ah no you see what has exploration to do with mutlicharing etc..
> and exploration can also be termed a joke when characters are allowed to sprint around galadon but get threatened when they walk around hell too fast...
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> >and ruin any and all effort the immstaff >puts into the game....it's people like you >that make me seriously think about hitting >the double delete every now and then...it's >the others like you that keep me from doing >it though.
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> Does it? i sure as hell enjoy the game, just because people don't always stick to the strict letter of the law (ie breaking the speed limit etc) doesn't mean they don't appreciate the game and doesn't mean they don't do many other things within the confines and enjoy the wonders of CF
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> Graham
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> > flame off