Two-hand dedication, immortals please comment , information needed.

Two-hand dedication, immortals please comment , information needed.:
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Posted by Concerened Paladin on July 24, 2000 at 13:15:45:

Im concerened, i've recenetly mastered templars defenses, and i've heard claims that it is extrmely powerfull if used in the right combation at the right time on the right weapons. Yes I can understand that what is said might hold true. But how can it be powerfull for anyone but those who coded it when there are no help files on it, the affects if any are showen as templars defense ***, and those that might not be showen dont show.
Ontop of which is the massive fail rate of the hits landing even at 100% of the skill.
I look at warriors with their boneshatters, hantrings, whirls, pincers, impales , cranials, backhands, misdirects. All these skills once you have them at 100% land at least 95% or more, some even 99%.

Why cannot templars defense land more often ?
For it to be viable , the conditions are allready massivly unique. You have to have the right weapon, they have to have a weapon, and the right weapon. The fight needs to last at least twenty rounds or more for you get actually land the blows (takeing into account that you miss 50% of the time, and that even then the affects might not take hold)

I like the revamp, I like it alot, but I think there needs to be some major tweaks here and there to fix some problems.

For all the other players out there, a paladin spamming wrath is still the best option. You can rely on wrath hitting every time and you can do it every round. Or you can spend 10 rounds miss 3 templar defense skills and land two , only to have their affects not take hold and the paladin to be left for dead.

when you dedicate two handed you sacrifice so much and gain very little. Restricted to maces and swords, unable to use staffs or polearms with any of the skills, is a big heft, out of all those maces and swords very very few are no-remove or no-disarm. You give up the use of a shield, and become a incredibly poor tank.

Id like the Immortals whom coded the new paladins to post their comments. Please explain why the templars defense miss so often, and why the strike misses so often.
Also weather or not you will make a help file for the templars defense individual moves. Most are left in the dark trying to work these out.

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I agree with Solkar here, just haven't figured it out yet. n/t Guardian 14:45:37 7/24/2000 (0)
I know that Tracker of the Wicked 14:20:51 7/24/2000 (3)
- spamming wrath do works still:P ever seen a bright emperial?n/t paladin 17:46:45 7/24/2000 (1)
  - Heh - I *did* say it works if the target sucks ;) (my little caveat) n/t T ot W 17:57:37 7/24/2000 (0)
- Concerned Paladin, don't read the above. T ot W 17:33:32 7/24/2000 (0)
You're gonna hear the same thing from almost every two-handed dedicated paladin Solkar 13:35:02 7/24/2000 (0)

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Comments:	> Im concerened, i've recenetly mastered templars defenses, and i've heard claims that it is extrmely powerfull if used in the right combation at the right time on the right weapons. Yes I can understand that what is said might hold true. But how can it be powerfull for anyone but those who coded it when there are no help files on it, the affects if any are showen as templars defense ***, and those that might not be showen dont show. > Ontop of which is the massive fail rate of the hits landing even at 100% of the skill. > I look at warriors with their boneshatters, hantrings, whirls, pincers, impales , cranials, backhands, misdirects. All these skills once you have them at 100% land at least 95% or more, some even 99%. > Why cannot templars defense land more often ? > For it to be viable , the conditions are allready massivly unique. You have to have the right weapon, they have to have a weapon, and the right weapon. The fight needs to last at least twenty rounds or more for you get actually land the blows (takeing into account that you miss 50% of the time, and that even then the affects might not take hold) > I like the revamp, I like it alot, but I think there needs to be some major tweaks here and there to fix some problems. > For all the other players out there, a paladin spamming wrath is still the best option. You can rely on wrath hitting every time and you can do it every round. Or you can spend 10 rounds miss 3 templar defense skills and land two , only to have their affects not take hold and the paladin to be left for dead. > when you dedicate two handed you sacrifice so much and gain very little. Restricted to maces and swords, unable to use staffs or polearms with any of the skills, is a big heft, out of all those maces and swords very very few are no-remove or no-disarm. You give up the use of a shield, and become a incredibly poor tank. > Id like the Immortals whom coded the new paladins to post their comments. Please explain why the templars defense miss so often, and why the strike misses so often. > Also weather or not you will make a help file for the templars defense individual moves. Most are left in the dark trying to work these out.

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