It's a butt load easier to learn a spell that sees through your spell than it is to learn every possible type of hiding place

It's a butt load easier to learn a spell that sees through your spell than it is to learn every possible type of hiding place:
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Posted by Graham on August 7, 2000 at 14:17:32:

In Reply to: Re: Idea for CF... posted by Tdr(VIP) on August 7, 2000 at 11:05:55:

> > Darkness is nothing in CF. Everyone and their mother has either something glowing or infravision. It's about time darkness is something to deal with.

> I can't believe it.. I'm replying.

> > -Darkness should grow as your distance increases from cities, and their should be different amounts of darkness. Glowing does not equal infravision.

> Okay, we agree here.

> > -Infravision should only give "a large red figure walks in" or something based on their size. If you look at them, you'll see a fire giant or what not, but they shouldn't know from them walking in the room.

> Here, I disagree. The drow (prior to surface arrival) live in perpetual darkness for the most part. Sure,
> there's faerie fire here and there, but for the most part, pow, darkness. They, and likely Svirfs, would easily
> recognize someone.

> > -In different amounts of darkness, you wouldn't be able to see people walk in the room, or walk out of the room, or if you did, it would be "Someone" no matter if you can see invis or nothing.

> I think the whole 'someone' needs to be changed as it is. If there's an invisible person, how do I know
> 'someone' has arrived? Why dont I just hear 'footsteps nearby', or a 'gust of wind' (from an arial)
> .. A flying invis mage wouldn't likely really make any noise at all, and would be just as quiet as someone
> sneaking.

> > Well there is my speal about darkness, and how useless it is in CF. The only time someone has to deal with it is when they die, in which they get something glowing (or I think ghosts can see in the dark now). I hope this brings a realization of how CF is really a sun-up-always mud unless your a druid, or fighting one.

> spiel? Heh, not even a minor grade rant, thankfully.

> > Coming Soon....Useless Invisibility!
> > (come on, people, this is invisibility, not a rabbit in the hat trick. it should be a big deal for invisibility also!)

> Aw christ, don't get me started. Talk about the most useless. If anything should be more common than invis, it should be
> HIDE. Its a buttload easier to learn how to slink in shadows than to master a spell to clould people's minds to hide you
> from sight.

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Umm... angels on head of a pin? How do you know how hard spells are to learn? (n/t) Proud Blade(VIP) 20:53:42 8/7/2000 (1)
- You learn detect invis as a minor spell of course it's easier, hell even ap's get it before others get detect hidden Graham 03:11:41 8/8/2000 (0)

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Comments:	> > > Darkness is nothing in CF. Everyone and their mother has either something glowing or infravision. It's about time darkness is something to deal with. > > I can't believe it.. I'm replying. > > > -Darkness should grow as your distance increases from cities, and their should be different amounts of darkness. Glowing does not equal infravision. > > Okay, we agree here. > > > -Infravision should only give "a large red figure walks in" or something based on their size. If you look at them, you'll see a fire giant or what not, but they shouldn't know from them walking in the room. > > Here, I disagree. The drow (prior to surface arrival) live in perpetual darkness for the most part. Sure, > > there's faerie fire here and there, but for the most part, pow, darkness. They, and likely Svirfs, would easily > > recognize someone. > > > -In different amounts of darkness, you wouldn't be able to see people walk in the room, or walk out of the room, or if you did, it would be "Someone" no matter if you can see invis or nothing. > > I think the whole 'someone' needs to be changed as it is. If there's an invisible person, how do I know > > 'someone' has arrived? Why dont I just hear 'footsteps nearby', or a 'gust of wind' (from an arial) > > .. A flying invis mage wouldn't likely really make any noise at all, and would be just as quiet as someone > > sneaking. > > > Well there is my speal about darkness, and how useless it is in CF. The only time someone has to deal with it is when they die, in which they get something glowing (or I think ghosts can see in the dark now). I hope this brings a realization of how CF is really a sun-up-always mud unless your a druid, or fighting one. > > spiel? Heh, not even a minor grade rant, thankfully. > > > Coming Soon....Useless Invisibility! > > > (come on, people, this is invisibility, not a rabbit in the hat trick. it should be a big deal for invisibility also!) > > Aw christ, don't get me started. Talk about the most useless. If anything should be more common than invis, it should be > > HIDE. Its a buttload easier to learn how to slink in shadows than to master a spell to clould people's minds to hide you > > from sight.

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