Posted by Heifer on August 26, 2000 at 18:23:37:
In Reply to: Tricky, tricky area. posted by Proud Blade(VIP) on August 26, 2000 at 18:21:14:
> Some roles will strike some players as annoying. However, the IMMs should intervene (in a negative way) in cases where a player: > 1) Roleplays horribly. > It doesn't sound like he's breaking 2) at all. As far as 1), there is no rule against repeatedly playing the same role. It's boring as hell, and limits your potential as a CF player, but you are free to do it. If one character of a player is allowed to run about sancting mobs, I don't see why the player's next characters couldn't. If no rule has been broken, IMMs should treat each character as tabula rasa, in my opinion. Judging by certain players who repeatedly play BattleRagers for years, there's precedent for this sort of thing being perfectly legal. (I doubt it's encouraged, but it seems legal.) > In summary, I think it's too much of a gray area to take hard action on. Try harder to get him to talk, hero up and kill the bastard, or just avoid him at all costs. > > Actually, he refuses to say a word if you talk to him, and the rant really isn't targeted at his ic persona. More the fact he's exclusively done this for a year and so on... I have no problem with people who do this sort of thing. I just get annoyed because I see no reason why somebody would only do this for a year plus. I've actually tried to talk to him with one of my past goodie heros and he was quite unresponsive. I just think his behavior his somewhat suspect and that the role was chosen so he could do this to people > > > It entirely depends on the healer's religion. However, for an awful lot of goodie healers, protecting and healing good mobs who are beset by evil adventurers is... pretty good roleplaying. I'm assuming he's following it up with discussion/sermons. If the healer is a peaceful type (Selric, Galadriel, etc.), what would you rather have him do? Abandon the mobs and go kill evil mobs for better gear? > > > Sure, it might be better for him to oppose evil hero-range folk. But sometimes you can't find them (gating to a potentially grouped evil person is risky at best...) or you don't have a good way to oppose them. (You're a healer, not a shaman... support characters are best in teams.) Also, a rare lowbie evil character might actually seize a neat roleplaying opportunity and "convert", or at least compromise. > > > Otherwise, your complaint is exactly equivalent to lambasting Imperials for using centurions. Empire is a cabal largely about conquest and control of Theran lands. Sometimes, that means that roads will be choked with centurions, demanding tolls from level 13 characters who are trying to find a place to rank. But using centurions is still fine roleplaying, and does not break any of the rules of CF. > > > > > > > How far can an imm go to step in on stuff like this? Now we go into the realm of hypothetical situations. A player such as Healer X is not breaking any rules of the game, rp or technical. Yet, this fictional player has been around for years and his purpose is clearly in the vein of Chris Warren characters, just hanging around and trying to piss people off. Will an Imm ever step in? It's a somewhat subjective opinion, but i'd be willing to give up some of the personal freedom that we've been given to get assholes like that out of the game. The imm staff is fairly diverse, they range from assholes, to arrogant bastards, to downright cool people. But in general, i've always found them to be fair. Hmm, this seems less coherant than my last post, but whatever :P > > > > Oh, and something new i'd like to put forth... I don't buy the "it's just my rp" excuse. If you're roleplaying a complete asshole and having no remorse about something, you're probably an asshole. And there you have it.
> 2) Breaks a rule.
> > > > X healer is a dick in the Chris Warren sense of the word. He finds lowbie evil ranking groups and sancs/heals their mobs. He then proceeds to check every ranking area they could be learning in for a while and does his best to fuck up their ranking. Now, even if 2 groups are ranking in emerald, he will stick with the one who wants to piss off and follow them around. X healer has been at it for about a year now... and from what i've seen, this is 90% of what his does, his major purpose in life so to speak. Now, clearly this guy is only playing the game to frustrate others, unless i'm alone in feeling that hindering ranking groups day in and day out isn't very fun. If i'm not alone in this, then my only conclusion can be that he is getting off on it somehow. Okay, so the rant part here is longer than it was in the original post, but oh well... here was the second half.