Not surprising.:

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Posted by The First Apostle on September 1, 2000 at 10:14:44:

In Reply to: Ummm.... posted by Graham on September 1, 2000 at 03:21:50:


Graham, I honestly think you argue just for the sake
of it.


> He's been honest, he hasn't opened to his mouth

Is this some form of scottish honesty that I don't know about?
My point wasn't delving into the realm of absolutes. If I am a
paladin, and I am asked a question about my actions, I interept
the code to mean that as a paladin I will show the proper respect
to the law (as is stated), as well as being truthful in words
and actions.

If a paladin commits a crime, and refuses to ask a direct question
in regard to his actions, I see that as going against the code,
and "paladinhood".

> He either tells the truth and is damned or he stays silent as is damned by that very silence since the person knows he'd be telling him the truth if he spoke.

Twisted logic.. twisted. Rome is presenting a situation that is rather
the extreme and somewhat idiotic. I don't play the what if game. If you
are a paladin with a necro in range, and you let him walk up to you and
ask you about your skills.. you deserve to loose that 1/3 con point.

Now, in reference to my point regarding the paladin being truthful to
the arbiter... why should a paladin not own up to what he's done? Does he
consider it a mistake? A paladin shouldn't hide from his actions, and except
the consquences of those actions. Damned if he does? Damned if he doesn't?
Please Graham.. read the f paladin code.
> >Tell me how this is paladin like? A direct question about the action of a paladin who declines to answer. What was that about honesty and the paladin code? It's in there.. isn't it?

> Romes example of the necro is a perfectly good one, honesty does not mean "must answer every single question put to him"
> it means "if he chooses to answer then he'd better be sure as fate that what he's saying -is- true"

Actually as I said above.. Rome's example is off topic. As a paladin.. I commit a crime in town. An
arbiter asks a direct question
to me if I had committed the crime. I refuse to answer the question. IMHO, it's breaking the paladin
code. It's my interpretation. Rome's example is ludicrous. First off, if I walk up to a paladin and
ask him how many hours left on your sanctuary.. tell me what's wrong with this?



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