You're not getting, and instead of deleting this one like I'm sure Graatch would want, I'll try to explain it.:

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Posted by Imbrogno (sans VIP flag because he's not speaking as a VIP, he's speaking as a human being) on September 15, 2000 at 14:33:21:

In Reply to: the Gay thing posted by An apology on September 15, 2000 at 14:09:47:

> this all started when I was in the Sewer and told a guy to "Kill the homo". Homo being the short for Homonculus.

"homo" could also be short for homo-sapiens, homogeneous, and homogenized, among others. The fact that you automatically apply it to homosexuals in a defamatory way says a lot about you as a person.


> Shortly there after I did the following....
> c 'cast FAERIE fire' HOMO
> a Homonculus glows PINK.

> those three words struck me as funny. So me being the Simpleton that I am I posted it thinking others might find humor in it.

Again, saying a lot about you as a person.

> Where I admitedly erred was using the Handle "Fag Basher". I used that because that is what came to mind do to the violence of the act we were engaged in.

This is correct.

> The post got deleted soon after.Exhasperated I posted somthing else and I can't recal what it was butO'm sure it wasn't PC. I don't think it was that far from being bad if a person just tried to look at it for what I was at. At any rate IT was deleted so I asked the fatal "What are some of the VIPS Gay?" error #2

Again, correct.

> I get called a dick wad or some thing and now I admittedly get Hot. the Clincher was the "people are dying bit" That sounded so absurd to me I felt certain Imbro was taking the moral high ground in an attempt to excersise his rights as a VIP. Write or wrong my perception. I am a Veteran and have seen action. This statement seemed unqualified to me. that is all in that.

"people are dying" was meant to make you understand that people, like Matthew Shephard, are dying because of anti-gay sentiment. In case you're not caught up on fairly current events, Matthew Shephard was a homosexual that was beaten and left for dead in the middle of nowhere.

> Soon the stereo types came out. Great...nice, loved them al. Seeings how they broke out the customary what about blacks jews and such. What about 'em? I know lots. I just got done reading Jewish E-mail.

Statements like this never cut it, and the sooner you realize that the sooner you will have grown as a person. It's funny, because immediately what we in the majority say when we're called out for being a bigot is something to the effect of "I'm not a bigot, I have black/gay/mexican friends!" This always gets a laugh from the offended minority, because it doesn't help matters and makes you look like a jackass.

> If you would really like to know: I'm an agnostic Pro gun anti abortion, anti- orginized religion pro evolution anti-affirmativeaction, pro-black, pro white, pro-sino,pro-native,anti-drug, anti-smoking, pro-drinking, anti illeagle immagrant rights,semipro-democrate, semipro republican, anti-grammar and anti-spelling....throw in punctuatuion too. what ever, Don't care for the gaylife style but I don't attack them or seek them out.I managed a couple in my store and promoted one over his peers.I mearly used the title in a moment of brevity. Okay so I'm wrong.

I don't care to know, and I think what you've just put is self-player assassination at its finest.

> Whats worse? Hating a guy because he's gay? or Hating a guy who doesn't agree with homosexuality?

The answer to this is obvious. It's worse hating somebody for something that they largely cannot help. It's completely justified to pity somebody for being a bigot.


> At anyrate I wasn't making a political statement with the post I was just making a joke. It just so happens I do not condone Gay lifestyles and I'm not going to pretend I do.

Nobody is asking you to. We're asking you to keep it to yourself and off this public forum which can be freely visited by anybody that wants to visit it.


> We can find so much humor in things like death and violence in todays society but one simple line sparks a MOB mentality of "OOOHH He's diferent!'BURN HIM!!!!!"

Which is exactly the image that your offensive handle, and everything thereafter conjures. I don't know if you're trying to use this to defend your own actions by condemning the condemners(a technique of neutralization as stated in Sykes & Matza's theories) or what, but it just makes you look stupid for not seeing how that statement relates to your own actions.

> So I'm a little old fashion...It ain't s bad I live with you fellers, now why can't ya live with me-uns?

Because we're not spouting hate, we're preaching tolerance. I don't hate you, I pity you.

> And I'm sorry for offending anyone.

As you should be.


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