As *much* as I hate wrath, I think forcing Paladins into not using it in honorable combat is senseless. Comes right down to players using stuff against other players that works. n/t

As *much* as I hate wrath, I think forcing Paladins into not using it in honorable combat is senseless. Comes right down to players using stuff against other players that works. n/t:
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Posted by Vimal on September 18, 2000 at 15:17:22:

In Reply to: I do not think you fully understand what does Balgrimnr's mean. posted by Swist on September 17, 2000 at 22:25:31:

> > There should be some changes to honorable combat. Like if you are partially hurt you should be taken away to the arena but you get healed fully and then be attacked AND if you are weaponless you will be given a temporary weapon that is a low average (ie. 15-17). What is honorable about attacking someone that is hurt or weaponless? I have been attacked by this so called honorable combat and i personally think it is bullshit. Anyway these are just some ideas.... Flame on if you want.

> It is perfectly honorable to go and slay naked person who sits on the pit waiting for gear to return (or what ever).
> It is not to attack hurt person who was fighting just moment before.
> Changes you offered made me laugh.

> But I do think what changes are needed.
> For example I think at the beginning of combat you should be given some time to prepare.
> And perhaps fight should not start right away as time expires. Put opponents in different corners.
> Let them run to each other and deploy tactics they want.

> I would really want to restrict paladins from using wrath in duel. USE your brains not dumb wrath spamming.
> If you force_challenge somebody for fight to death - means you think you can beat them no matter what. So do it without wrath.
> Besides it would make fights more interesting.

> Perhaps I misunderstand 'Honor' as well but for my mind
> idea of this duel thing is to resolve misunderstanding/find out who is stronger/etc and not repeatly kill all evils around (*wink* Shokai).

> Also there is should be some kind of drawback to followers of honor.
> For example everybody (in pk) can challenge follower of Balgrimnr and he would be honor-bound to accept it.
> I have no idea is it so now or not.
> Challenge enforcement can be on roleplaying level only.

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Comments:	> > > There should be some changes to honorable combat. Like if you are partially hurt you should be taken away to the arena but you get healed fully and then be attacked AND if you are weaponless you will be given a temporary weapon that is a low average (ie. 15-17). What is honorable about attacking someone that is hurt or weaponless? I have been attacked by this so called honorable combat and i personally think it is bullshit. Anyway these are just some ideas.... Flame on if you want. > > It is perfectly honorable to go and slay naked person who sits on the pit waiting for gear to return (or what ever). > > It is not to attack hurt person who was fighting just moment before. > > Changes you offered made me laugh. > > But I <b>do</b> think what changes are needed. > > For example I think at the beginning of combat you should be given some time to prepare. > > And perhaps fight should not start right away as time expires. Put opponents in different corners. > > Let them run to each other and deploy tactics they want. > > I would really want to restrict paladins from using wrath in duel. USE your brains not dumb wrath spamming. > > If you force_challenge somebody for fight to death - means you think you can beat them no matter what. So do it without wrath. > > Besides it would make fights more interesting. > > Perhaps I misunderstand 'Honor' as well but for my mind > > idea of this duel thing is to resolve misunderstanding/find out who is stronger/etc and <b>not</b> repeatly kill all evils around (wink Shokai). > > Also there is should be some kind of drawback to followers of honor. > > For example everybody (in pk) can challenge follower of Balgrimnr and he would be honor-bound to accept it. > > I have no idea is it so now or not. > > Challenge enforcement can be on roleplaying level only.

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