Posted by The combo Jhunal/Kaejof on October 24, 2000 at 15:28:23:
In Reply to: three cents from someone w/o a clue (what are u doing?) Aniedra :P posted by Sierothe/Yrastrius/Ayragus on October 24, 2000 at 15:13:34:
> > Okay, I don't have a rager in now, nor have I since Aniedra.. but from what I saw of the cabal under Tarakh kind of saddened me. I saw people doing stuff I know I'd have uninducted them for, and none of the redeeming things I saw when I was in the lead. > Since my car broke down I can't move my computer to my new place still, and no internet connection. > Given my current skill/knowledge of CF, I must say I cannot do much right now. > Like Aniedra said, it is hard to say which is right. > > > Is it acceptable for a battlerager to go around fighting someone else, while a battle bard sings him up and heals him, etc? > > Is it acceptable for multiple ragers to attack a solo person who uses pets? (Necromancers, Conjurers, Druids, Arbiters, etc) > > Is it acceptable to tag team somebody? > > Is it okay for a second rager to spam closing a door while another rager fights, to stop the guy from fleeing? > > There are two extremes, one being never help each other out period, and the other being do anything and everything including ganging to help each other. > > Battle lies somewhere in between those two. Maybe the Battle Imms are trying to tell the village that they've headed way too far in the wrong direction, and need to stop being so quick to mass-aid each other. > > And for what it's worth, I think that a leader can do a lot to hurt a cabal in the long run if she's too permissible in what she lets go, and inducts too many people of lesser quality. Sure, you win your fights in the short term, but in the end the lack of quality (and I mean roleplaying quality, not fighting ability) will wreck the Village when the Imms crack down like this.
> I logged on briefly and saw Tarakh. (never really knew the guy.
> As Sierothe(defender) I pretty much walked around bandaging people left and right when I see fit.
> As Ayragus(scout) yah, I sang songs to aid when I see fit also. I stopped singing offensive songs to aid other rager in hononrable combat after some questioned me.
> As for Yraistrius(berserker) thirsting is discriminate.
> Sometimes, I interferred with others fight, but I fled only to have the enemy flee into me again. O WELL
> use proper judgement, and stay out of people's fights if they called it.
> Personally, I don't mind help here and there.
> Given my current skill level and knowledge of CF.
> No rager of mine can kill a Conjurer or the infamous lich)
> > I'll be one of the first to step up and say that courage is kind of a nebulous thing, but I've also seen many people take it way too far. Maybe the Battle Imms made a bad judgement call in a particular case here, I don't know, and I'm not going to second-guess them, especially not solely on forum hearsay. If I had to guess, I think they may have beent trying to send a message that things had gone too far in terms of what the cabal as a whole was considering 'acceptable'.. for example, some questions I myself had to consider when I was leader:
> Ayragus, R U talking about me???
> Well, all I can say is, I still can't kill a conjurer alone, and not to mentiont the infamous lich.
> never really done that.
> > and so on...
> > a lot of it is situational, but some people will take any advantage they think they can get away with.