Posted by Magtograme on October 25, 2000 at 12:43:36:
In Reply to: Quick two cents on Battle v. Arbiters posted by The Arcane(VIP) on October 25, 2000 at 09:56:21:
> As Dhaevor, I made it explicitly clear that Battle's true war was with the Tower alone... not even with Empire. Dhaevor was an interesting character - but I didnt share his views on everything. Every leader tends to have a different albeit slightly different outlook - not to say though that I wouldnt follow my leader in whatever he claimed as per rule one on the tablet. > But, I viewed Arbiters as a worse foe than Empire. Why? Because they actively protect mages from their deserved fate. empire protect mages as well by Im really not sure how you can compare that to arbiters who wont actively take the head unless a war is started - I often killed/attempted to kill mages in town, I get wanted, big deal, misguided arbies, troublesome bastards.. Im flagged I cant hunt an arbie or a mage... when shouldnt the mage take priority?. > This is WHY Ragers can't be lawful, folks. Come on, think about it. no disagreement there whatsoever. > It's not like other cabals... yes, they accept mages, so you kill their mages, but you try and respect the cabal beliefs if you can. But Arbiters, their very beliefs entail hindering the pursuit of the Truth! An Arbiter is bound by his belief and service to the cabal to try and stop me from killing a mage who is polluting Galadon with his taint. That makes him in league with the magi, and it makes me (as Rager) want to rip his heart out whenever I see him, even if he's not actively protecting a mage at the time. 5 minutes after the reboot when the Arbiters were resurrected, Dhaevor walked past Bria interviewing Quintellia at the stern guard and took the Book back to the village. Other events prevented me from following through with full war as I had intended at the time, but in my eyes it is absolutely clear that that's what a Rager SHOULD do. Kill Arbiters every time you see them, take the Book, open up mage guilds all the time, and so on. Crush the magi and those who would protect them. Crush the Arbiters until they exempt magi from the protection of the law and let them be ripped freely apart in the streets of the cities like the scum they are. or.. arbiters are misguided - a nuisance, and once the magi are destroyed - then maybe there is a place for them in the new world. > My two cents. thanks - it is really interesting reading peoples view points on this.
a) offering them a place within their soceity and holding them above others (normal citizens - arbies protect all equally)
b) building a fortress to protect their mages (encourages them to slaughter no-oathed ie ragers)
c) the big one - they own the head - they take it when they can - that slightly hinders the ability of ragers to kill mages (and makes them bait in most cases)