Posted by Graatch on October 29, 2000 at 12:25:17:
In Reply to: Reply to PB from page 2: posted by The Arcane(VIP) on October 29, 2000 at 03:49:24:
> But then again, we define "elite" differently. Sure, I'd throw you in there, but I certainly don't consider, say, Arolin among the game's elites. Why? He's only good at one facet. And he had a lot of help getting there. And he's been around forever. > I don't define Arolin as an elite, either. Never have. He's not half as good as he thinks he is. Honestly, I don't have much objection with people who only roleplay as a means to the end of getting cabal powers or tattoo powers or whatnot. I have absolutely no right to judge anyone for what they get enjoyment from within the game, nor do others, so long as the individuals in question abide by the rules and spirit of the game. > Looking back, trying to think of people I'd consider elite... some of these names may be before your time, I'm not sure when you started playing... > Taaben from DIKU (Llorenthos), Gareth, Tikich, Zharradam/Palan, Peter from DIKU (Haszak + a zillion badass necros), Strahd, Umoens, and several others. > Amazingly enough, everyone on that list ranged from above average in roleplaying to exceptional. Go figure. PKing and RP aren't inversely proportional, as shocking as that may be. In fact, I'm hard pressed to think of *anyone* I'd consider elite who's a poor roleplayer. > I know there will be arguments about Zharradam and Gareth, probably... the former has played a number of no-RP PK chars (ok, "a number" is being generous), but before he got somewhat disillusioned with things, he had several characters who did roleplay consistently and well. The latter I'll agree at times sacrificed or bent RP to get more kills, but if you talked to the guy, there was plainly at least something substantive there. > Anyway... I'd bet that every one of the people on my list put a lot of thought into PK, maybe picking their race/class/cabal/religion combo to min/max power, and enjoyed the PK aspect of the game most, and wouldn't have played CF if it was a limited-PK or no-PK mud. Do I think the game is better off without them (those who have left, anyway)? Absolutely not. > Just my two cents. Various peoples' little harangues about the evils of a PK-oriented approach to the game bother me.