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Posted by Umguy on November 3, 2000 at 07:54:37:

In Reply to: Longer response to Umguy (text) posted by Joshu on November 3, 2000 at 07:32:43:

Sebeok hasn't posted for 2 weeks. This is a fact. Unless he's lying to me, which I doubt he would do.

I myself also did not start the thread. The Arcane can probably verify that by checking the fact that my ...'s are always in threes, or some shit like that.

I don't know if the original poster was an Imm. It's possible. I do know it wasn't Sebeok. I know for a fact. 100% Whether you believe that I'd lie is of no real consequence to me. If you wish to lump all of the Imms into the "cheating bastard" group, I can play the same game and lump all dikus into the "permagrouping cheater" group. (I don't believe this way, btw, but it makes a point, doesn't it?)

The original post asked a valid question, regardless of ulterior motives. The problem is people like you (and The Arcane) like to use this forum to attack the Imm staff and CF in general, but don't like it when the tables are turned. You take very much offense that you might be called a hypocrite, or when someone questions whether YOU have ulterior motives.

You don't want to answer the valid question? Fine. Nice how you decide to throw stones at Zepachu as your reason why not. Again, you turn the attention from yourself by attacking others. But if you don't want to answer the question, don't stick your nose into it further down the line. It makes you look like (to borrow from Pumpkin Man) a chump.

As for your second to last point: The Arcane is wrong. I can tell you that beyond a shadow of a doubt. Why? Because I asked Sebeok. He HEARD about the thread, as he hasn't even been reading this board, from another Imm. He doesn't post or read here anymore. I don't blame him. I'm not going to make some vague threat about me leaving as well, as I doubt you'd care, and I doubt I could keep to it. At work, I sit here and read these posts that give me ulcers, because I get bored and have nothing better to do. Unhealthy? Probably. But then I see a post by someone who actually seems to enjoy CF, and it makes it somewhat worthwhile. Let's face it though, I'd probably read even without those.

My strange issues aside, why do YOU read, Joshu? Do you play chars anymore? Do you like to play CF? If so, great, that answers the question quite nicely. If not...you're probably more sad than I am.

Oh and one last time. Unless Sebeok lied to me (why would he lie to me?) this thread was NOT started by him. End of story.

P.S. Will I make up a new alias to take the place of Umguy, now that you've "outed" me, Joshu? You bet your ass. Why? Because I'm a player too. I have opinions on things, on how people played a certain thing, etc, that have no reason to be coming from an Imm. Being just another player gives my opinion credibility beyond if I post as an Imm. People see an Imm posting and (thanks to you, among others) see an ulterior motive. ("Twist gave advice on what warrior spec to play, but only because he wants to see more of that kind of warrior spec for game balance.") You've already admitted that seeing that a post is my post decreases the amount of credence you lend to it.

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