I owe someone an apology...

I owe someone an apology...:
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Posted by Baltwistgrumguywhatever(IMM) on November 6, 2000 at 16:03:37:

But it isn't you, Challen. To you, all I will do is admit that I was indeed wrong, and you were indeed right. I don't feel I owe you an apology, because my points were valid (your dodging of the issue) and all I could really do was offer my opinion of the situation which at the time felt as sure as concrete. I did not insult you, nor call you any sort of name. I said I lost respect for you, and, sadly, I did lose respect for you. But I lost a measure of respect for more than just you with that thread, so, there you have it.

No, the person I owe an apology to is Dioxide. Some people may disagree with me posting this on the forum, but the forum is where this all started, and it is where it will (hopefully) end. Here's what happened:

I shot holes at the Arcane's theory of who started the thread in question. If you don't know what thread, too bad. Go look. I shot holes because I believed I was 100% right, and the Arcane was 100% wrong.

The Arcane sent me an email, after speaking with Dioxide, giving me the ip address for the original poster, and asked me to match them up, as he was very sure that would prove he was right. They did. I did not, however, wish to believe that I had been deceived. So I took things further. I contacted the owner of Gameshadow networks (who was very helpful and considerate, btw, kudos to the Gameshadow organization) to verify the IP. After the Arcane had given me the evidence, there were only two possibilities:

1. I'd been deceived by a friend.
2. There was some strange conspiracy, and even Dioxide was in on it.

I decided that before I believed (1.) I would make sure that (2.) was out of the question. After speaking with the Gameshadow owner, (2.) was indeed out of the question.

Do I owe Dioxide an apology for being wrong? No. I owe him an apology for thinking less of him than he deserved. Deep down, I did not truly think that (2.) was possible, but when it comes to friendship, I can be stubborn to the point of blindness.

Don't get me wrong. If this had had anything to do with potential cheating, friendship would have been put aside for the moment. But this was a pointless little forum post. Not seeing any reason that I WOULD be deceived, I stubbornly refused to believe I was.

Lastly, I owe the man who is still my friend an apology. I really should never have gotten involved in the damn thing in the first place.

Bleh.

Follow Ups:

Re: I owe someone an apology... No one in particular 17:02:03 11/6/2000 (0)
*tip* The Arcane(VIP) 16:43:43 11/6/2000 (14)
- who's that guy that would risk his life for brother man ? ARCANE ... hrrmn that doesn't work maybe if you changed your name to Arcance Shaft or John Arcane or straight John Shaft .... *smirks* n/t {Asa} 18:57:43 11/6/2000 (13)
  - Woe to the Americanization of the rest of the world n/t Flame Boy to the Rescue! 22:39:57 11/6/2000 (12)
    - Alright damnit, lets get some facts straight..... Flaming the Flame boy! 23:03:12 11/6/2000 (11)
      - additional rebuttals/mockery Graham(realm of the damned) 02:33:06 11/7/2000 (9)
        
        Re: additional rebuttals/mockery theNINE 08:39:11 11/7/2000 (2)
        
        Re: theNINE "...Biggest != Best" nt Mr. Bean, take 2 09:20:10 11/7/2000 (0)
        
        nt Mr. Bean 09:18:28 11/7/2000 (0)
        
        Get over it, I visited jolly old England a few months ago, you guys are SO on our dicks, could you want to be us more?! P.S. your 6 channels suck!n/t Limeybanger 07:22:40 11/7/2000 (5)
        
        Ah yes, television, the only nurse who'd raise a cripple Graham(realm of the damned) 07:54:53 11/7/2000 (1)
        
        I hate to agree with Graham theNINE 08:37:11 11/7/2000 (0)
        
        Maybe we should be nice to them... KN in OW 07:36:37 11/7/2000 (2)
        
        Re: Maybe we should be nice to them... theNINE 08:34:59 11/7/2000 (1)
        
        heh..whats the current obesity statistics in America? Graham (Realm of the Damned) 09:06:30 11/7/2000 (0)
      - Some rebuttals... (text) Mayenne 00:50:03 11/7/2000 (0)
I like to put those feelings in a smaller lockbox. (n/t) Albert Gore 16:19:19 11/6/2000 (3)
- Everybody makes fun of that line, but nobody stops to think about whether or not it makes any sense. (n/t) Arch-Angel 18:08:29 11/6/2000 (1)
  - Sir, you have attacked my integrity but I will not respond in kind. (n/t) Albert Gore 21:59:43 11/6/2000 (0)
- I heard Albert Gore invented this Web page....or was it those porn sites? n/t Someone 16:51:54 11/6/2000 (0)
Re: I owe someone an apology... Dioxide(VIP) 16:18:07 11/6/2000 (0)
Damn, I'm calling The Arcane P.I. to solve my mysteries too now! (n/t) Wow 16:14:19 11/6/2000 (0)

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Comments:	> But it isn't you, Challen. To you, all I will do is admit that I was indeed wrong, and you were indeed right. I don't feel I owe you an apology, because my points were valid (your dodging of the issue) and all I could really do was offer my opinion of the situation which at the time felt as sure as concrete. I did not insult you, nor call you any sort of name. I said I lost respect for you, and, sadly, I did lose respect for you. But I lost a measure of respect for more than just you with that thread, so, there you have it. > No, the person I owe an apology to is Dioxide. Some people may disagree with me posting this on the forum, but the forum is where this all started, and it is where it will (hopefully) end. Here's what happened: > I shot holes at the Arcane's theory of who started the thread in question. If you don't know what thread, too bad. Go look. I shot holes because I believed I was 100% right, and the Arcane was 100% wrong. > The Arcane sent me an email, after speaking with Dioxide, giving me the ip address for the original poster, and asked me to match them up, as he was very sure that would prove he was right. They did. I did not, however, wish to believe that I had been deceived. So I took things further. I contacted the owner of Gameshadow networks (who was very helpful and considerate, btw, kudos to the Gameshadow organization) to verify the IP. After the Arcane had given me the evidence, there were only two possibilities: > 1. I'd been deceived by a friend. > 2. There was some strange conspiracy, and even Dioxide was in on it. > I decided that before I believed (1.) I would make sure that (2.) was out of the question. After speaking with the Gameshadow owner, (2.) was indeed out of the question. > Do I owe Dioxide an apology for being wrong? No. I owe him an apology for thinking less of him than he deserved. Deep down, I did not truly think that (2.) was possible, but when it comes to friendship, I can be stubborn to the point of blindness. > Don't get me wrong. If this had had anything to do with potential cheating, friendship would have been put aside for the moment. But this was a pointless little forum post. Not seeing any reason that I WOULD be deceived, I stubbornly refused to believe I was. > Lastly, I owe the man who is still my friend an apology. I really should never have gotten involved in the damn thing in the first place. > Bleh.

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