Posted by Zepachu on November 11, 2000 at 21:05:42:
In Reply to: One last thing or two. posted by Irazhul on November 11, 2000 at 19:41:33:
You said: "P.S: You don't usually get angrily defensive when people call you a moron straight out. I'm sorry if me questioning your knowledge of something you've never done has impaired... " This is true, but I *do* know what I'm talking about. My point was not that you were WRONG, but that there are DIFFERENT WAYS TO PLAY an AP above level 35. Your advice is very accurate, I agree, but mine is no less viable as a successful way to play an AP. Why can't we both be right? I'm willing to say that we both are, here and now, whether or not you're man enough to do so. -Zepachu. > I won't bother continuing this thread with somebody who has no experience in the matter, but my last couple things to say are.. yes, spelling up combat CAN sometimes be useful, but more often than not it's not. If maladiction is your thing be a flee/sleep monkey like that duergar AP a while back. > P.S: You don't usually get angrily defensive when people call you a moron straight out. I'm sorry if me questioning your knowledge of something you've never done has impaired your desired cyber-humping of Ekirhal and made you look less studly. If so, you have my condolences, especially since Thinhallen will probably step in and mack your woman now. Sorry. > > > Let's hear who your AP over level 40 with a successful PK ratio was.. oh, right, you don't HAVE ONE. Maybe if you did you'd have something approaching a clue that "spelling up in combat" is not viable for an AP over 35 (hint #1: no spellcraft + penalty + saves vs spell). > > > > > For you to say that parrying is not good and you're going to ALWAYS want to use an axe is quite simply showing your dim intelligence.
> Second of all, what my overreaching point was that seemed to zep-zip right over your head:
> You need wands to be successful -> If you have wands, physical damage does not matter enough to use a sword over axe, especially considering -> you still won't tank well with a sword, but will be parried much, much easier.
> You don't have to bother responding to this, just prove me wrong with your badass sword using AP. Somehow, I doubt it.
> Irazhul
> > Let's ponder. Successful APs: Palan, axe, Guerric, axe, Raag, axe, Waigerits (ok, I'm stretching :P), axe, and so on and so on. I am interested in hearing a single hero range AP who used a sword consistantly and was successful. Guess what? There isn't one (Well, Strahd's master drow AP was sort of successful, but nowhere near on the level of any of the big fire APs, and he'd probably have used an axe if he'd have had any choice in the matter). Let's see.. the wisdom of all these people with more hero APs than you've had heroes sure seems to be leaning towards axe. Is it possible that these people who have actually had APs over 35 might know something over Zepachu, the forum monkey who's never had one? Eh.. nah. Calling me 'an ass' and whatever else you've said when you have NO EXPERIENCE just makes you look stupid. Real PKing on CF doesn't begin until level 30. Hero an AP, use swords, and then I'll listen to what you have to say.
> > Oh, and another thing: APs still tank like shit, even with a sword. You're still not going to tank well using a sword, you may as well go axe/shield if you want to be less of a brick.
> > Irazhul
> > > Don't you see that, exactly like I said, it's a "matter of preference." If you want to take a more defensive stance in battle you use a sword rather than an axe. If you want to deal out a nice amount of damage you use an axe. It obviously depends on the situation.