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I love all the new stuff you get on PBF's now! - ekirhal ten years ago

re porkchop n./t - xenoroyal ten years ago

Shift Forms Poll txt - Gabe(VIP) ten years ago

What would happen if they allowed shifters to select their exact forms.txt - phoenix ten years ago

That's interesting. I've played three hero shifters, and had different major/minor's for all of them. - Sam ten years ago

That's like saying "if warriors can choose specs there would be nothing but axe specs." n/t - Death_Claw ten years ago

I think you all forget one important thing... - ekvilibr ten years ago

Any class is easier to rank with a permagroup - ExPaladin(VIP) ten years ago

Re: Any class is easier to rank with a permagroup - ekvilibr ten years ago

Some commets - Dwoggurd ten years ago

Just quickly, since for some reason I got banned again on officials even though I couldn't post due to computer problems... - Sam ten years ago

Re: The more I think about it... - laearrist ten years ago

I do really like random forms for my shifters n/t - Woland ten years ago

Great - Dwoggurd ten years ago

I'd not be so happy to be facing tiger eagle # 50 nt - daurwyn(VIP) ten years ago

With bat for third tier - daurwyn(VIP) ten years ago

The game should't have different rules depending on players' wishes, hey. n/t - Woland ten years ago

It's less biased than your shape of the poll. - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

And - Dwoggurd ten years ago

To answer your question below, yes, I think shifters need that disadvantage. - Balrahd(VIP) ten years ago

If I roll a shifter - Dwoggurd ten years ago

Yeah, I gotta agree with you there. Some forms are the super/duper exploring forms, and some are super/duper pk forms. NT - Sam ten years ago

This doesn't make any sense. - Death_Claw ten years ago

Re: This doesn't make any sense. - Balrahd(VIP) ten years ago

I would say there's a significant enough gap that it doesn't warrant being random. - Death_Claw ten years ago

Just for shit's sake, there is no anaconda anymore :) NT - Sam ten years ago

And Jaguar is probably better than it was these days. - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

The problem: - Balrahd(VIP) ten years ago

Re: The problem: - Death_Claw ten years ago

Yes, that's true, I have never ended up with crappy forms. n/t - Balrahd(VIP) ten years ago

I like your point of view on the subject. ~ - _Magus_ ten years ago

Why oh WHY do we have to have DRAWBACKS? - Graham ten years ago

OK serious question: do you play competitive games? Like Risk? - Balrahd(VIP) ten years ago

Re: OK serious question: do you play competitive games? Like Risk? - Graham ten years ago

I think the common thread with all those "drawbacks" - Death_Claw ten years ago

Good point. ~ - _Magus_ ten years ago

Re: Why oh WHY do we have to have DRAWBACKS? - Death_Claw ten years ago

Why oh why is the forum fubar? nt - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

How about - Dwoggurd ten years ago

That makes sense. - Balrahd(VIP) ten years ago

The randomness makes it interesting - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

Because the pot-luck makes shifting interesting. Why would anyone pick anything but the same-old power combos? - Yhorian(VIP) ten years ago

My points againts randomness are still valid - Dwoggurd ten years ago

Agreed. - Death_Claw ten years ago

How do you justify handing out inferior combos to people with 200 hours? - Death_Claw ten years ago

Why not play warrior with random spec then? - ekvilibr ten years ago

That made no sense. Shifters aren't nearly as stat/race dependant as warriors. nt - Yhorian(VIP) ten years ago

I disagree - Graham ten years ago

So take stats out of the picture. - Death_Claw ten years ago

Exactly - Dwoggurd ten years ago

Form stats are independent of race and spec choises. - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

But - Dwoggurd ten years ago

Weak form is not a combo - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

Re: Weak form is not a combo - Dwoggurd ten years ago

I agree. Comparing with warrior - bad idea.. - ekvilibr ten years ago

Poll: Allow shifters choose their forms? - Dwoggurd ten years ago

Poll answers to Gabe's thread - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

Could you explain? What's wrong with answering the poll? - Death_Claw ten years ago

Ah, ok I get it now. I misunderstood what you were saying. n/t - Death_Claw ten years ago

Is this a poll or are your trying to petition your pick-a-form cause? - Quixotic ten years ago

This is a poll - Dwoggurd ten years ago

Option 4 - abernyte ten years ago

Option 3 - abernyte ten years ago

To alter this idea... - daurwyn(VIP) ten years ago

I think this is a poor idea. - Death_Claw ten years ago

IMO the forms are balanced but not everyone wants the same build - abernyte ten years ago

Re: IMO the forms are balanced but not everyone wants the same build - Death_Claw ten years ago

Wires have crossed somewhere so I cant argue with what i agree with... - abernyte ten years ago

Whoah. This sounds very contradictory. - _Magus_ ten years ago

Re: Whoah. This sounds very contradictory. - Death_Claw ten years ago

Keep it random n/t - asthiss ten years ago

Reason? - Dwoggurd ten years ago

Re: Poll: Allow shifters choose their forms? - ekvilibr ten years ago

The fact is, there are forms that people just wouldn't take. - _Magus_ ten years ago

Imho, the otter is the best amphibious form. It's land and water ass-kicking. nt - Yhorian(VIP) ten years ago

I agree with this. I could tank in Kiadana when I had an otter. VERY nice form..nt - baekthestorm ten years ago

This is another example of the admin problem. - Death_Claw ten years ago

Re: The fact is, there are forms that people just wouldn't take. - crafteddeception ten years ago

Re: - _Magus_ ten years ago

I think the point is that the forms listed by Magus.. txt - enyuu ten years ago

No, I think its part of the class and somes are alot better than others n/t - hopelessdwarf ten years ago

Random forms are by design right now - Dwoggurd ten years ago

I can see how it is frustrating, but I see the lack of min/max'ing as a drawback to the class. n/t - Balrahd(VIP) ten years ago

Do they need any drawbacks - Dwoggurd ten years ago

Let them pick their forms, but lose their minor focus or both top-tier forms. NT - Quixotic ten years ago

Nosense - Dwoggurd ten years ago

I just dont want to see tiger/owls or eagle/tigers everywhere. nt - crafteddeception ten years ago

Yeah, because every warrior is mace/polearm greeting/trapping. Dipshit idiot. ~ - _Magus_ ten years ago

Re - Dwoggurd ten years ago

If they're balanced, why do you fear randomness so much? Even with a re-choose edge? nt - Yhorian(VIP) ten years ago

Not really, since evade change it is dagger and N E other spec~ - abernyte ten years ago

i think tiger is prefered with air form and for just mass killing. nt - crafteddeception ten years ago

He's right though. - Death_Claw ten years ago

Re: Not only balanced forms - ekvilibr ten years ago

Warriors are balanced...rangers are balanced...why not shifters? - Death_Claw ten years ago

Rangers aren't balanced dude. Roll a bedouin. nt - Yhorian(VIP) ten years ago

I could do well with that. I don't have time to roll everything under the sun tho. n/t - Death_Claw ten years ago

Re: Warriors are balanced...rangers are balanced...why not shifters? - ekvilibr ten years ago

been away for a while. Who's this Ravon character? - vecna ten years ago

Ravon won CF:(~ - Zoder ten years ago

I heard his tears cure cancer n/t - NeverMindTheWarlocks ten years ago

I heard his tears CAUSE cancer n/t - Graham ten years ago

They say that under his beard there is no chin - only a third fist. nt - istirith ten years ago

He's wanted in nevada for banging horses, and screwing a beagle n/t - hopelessdwarf ten years ago

That beagle is just abusing Ravon's ill reputation for his own personal gain. nt - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

Re: been away for a while. Who's this Ravon character? - baekthestorm ten years ago

Haven't met him but... - berserk_eagle ten years ago

Hah - gerylanst ten years ago

He doesn't take risks though - daurwyn(VIP) ten years ago

Tired of everyone screaming on Ravon just have to say.... - asthiss ten years ago

Re: Tired of everyone screaming on Ravon just have to say.... - daurwyn(VIP) ten years ago

Listen dude. Ravon is a great char, but was a kinda pussy in the early stages. - Sam ten years ago

Actually - he does fully sac your gear. That and .0001% chance of victory = quit roll level 15 cgiant basher n/t - gotki ten years ago

This is false. Get off it. nt - Nivek(VIP) ten years ago

I'm told he only does that to people he actively wants to discourage. txt - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

Yes we all know competition isn't fun~ - Enbuergo ten years ago

He can't stop competition. He can only raise the stakes. txt - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

Maybe this is an oversight on my behalf but.. - istirith ten years ago

Flags get stripped when you make it an unholy. n/t - Death_Claw ten years ago

Re: Tired of everyone screaming on Ravon just have to say.... - ekvilibr ten years ago

Which way do edges get listed? Descending or ascending cost? nt - Yhorian(VIP) ten years ago

Descending txt - abedour ten years ago

Anyone have an explaination for the rash of lowbie cloud giant attack everything chars lately? - silencedstatik ten years ago

Is this possibly the Kobaine/Ordan reincarnations? - istirith ten years ago

Where PK - Guile ten years ago

Guys... - Terwin ten years ago

I haven't had a run in with them, but when they kill newbies over and over... - silencedstatik ten years ago

The only newbs here are you people bitching your getting killed - Rogue ten years ago

Re: The only newbs here are you people bitching your getting killed - Death_Claw ten years ago

Re: The only newbs here are you people bitching your getting killed - Rogue ten years ago

Re: The only newbs here are you people bitching your getting killed - Death_Claw ten years ago

Re: The only newbs here are you people bitching your getting killed - Rogue ten years ago

Re: The only newbs here are you people bitching your getting killed - Death_Claw ten years ago

Re: The only newbs here are you people bitching your getting killed - Rogue ten years ago

Re: The only newbs here are you people bitching your getting killed - Death_Claw ten years ago

Only one thing though, im not playing a cloud giant. nt - Rogue ten years ago

Been wavering about deleting all of my chars, one of them almost pushed me over the edge today. nt - zen ten years ago

Only one I've come into contact with wasn't a cloud. nt - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

Retracted. nt - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

Heheh. Was it ugly? nt - The Forsaken(VIP) ten years ago

You might say that, yes. nt - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

It's quite insane txt. - deriveh ten years ago

I love that there are "attack everything that moves chars" - xenoroyal ten years ago

Yeah, years ago it used to be worse. Not so bad anymore. - Death_Claw ten years ago

If they were evil, I wouldn't even bat an eyelash. Going cloud just seems kinda cheap. nt - silencedstatik ten years ago

I'm cool with muti-killing, group betraying, full sac-ing. But acting evil with a netutral is beyond pathetic and should be punished quicker n/t - xenoroyal ten years ago

Hehe, you've met him too? - dervish ten years ago

It's rabid and needs to be put down. - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

Why is it.. txt - night ten years ago

So they can screw with your level 2 characters mv's? ~ - Krilcov ten years ago

although by and large I do agree with this - daurwyn(VIP) ten years ago

Re: although by and large I do agree with this - istirith ten years ago

It's a bit different - daurwyn(VIP) ten years ago

Because tribs can do the same in their territory? nt - sleepy ten years ago

Only when on duty, however. But they have some power even if raided. nt - dervish ten years ago

considering a come back after 4 months - bobbyp ten years ago

Anybody that has to fight Ravon. Hah. nt - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

Roll an ap and get cleave to 100%, suicide spamming it on him. (~) - karnif ten years ago

From what I saw of Ravon's early days, that would be poetic justice :) n/t - Balrahd(VIP) ten years ago

Cleave % doesn't actually matter for cleave in half, just damage. - Krilcov ten years ago

Imho, this is false. You skill gain in cleave twice because of this... - Yhorian(VIP) ten years ago

Makes sense. - Krilcov ten years ago

There was a bug with 1% skills sometime ago. Probably just that. nt - Drokk ten years ago

After the first two he wont let you get close. nt - Cerunnir(VIP) ten years ago

So then you're suddenly the hunter rather than the hunted. (~) - karnif ten years ago

Scarab~ - torak ten years ago

Re: Scarab~ - bobbyp ten years ago

Scarab isn't going to be a cabal again in foreseeable future. nt - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

He's full of it. As I see things now: - Treebeard ten years ago

Hmm, strange - daurwyn(VIP) ten years ago

I'd change outlanders and battle - dervish ten years ago

PS: The 'Cabal' command was implemented.. - istirith ten years ago

Ravon dies - infi ten years ago

That's plenty of time for Ravon to rack up kills with his unholy cane. nt - DurNominator(VIP) ten years ago

He should leech all the charges into a cane when he hits old age. txt - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

You're obsessed nt - daurwyn(VIP) ten years ago

I've been away for a while... - tleven01 ten years ago

Any imperial citizen can Bloodoath. Only those above you (in-sect) can promote. - Yhorian(VIP) ten years ago

Empire as far as I gather.. - istirith ten years ago

Re: I've been away for a while... - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

Re: I've been away for a while... - alex ten years ago

Re: I've been away for a while... - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

Re: I've been away for a while... - alex ten years ago

why cant i create a new char`? - thomas ten years ago

It's the down's syndrome -nt- - infi ten years ago

Because your spamming me with stupid low lvl chars an got denied ;) nt - Rogue ten years ago

I played a mud that auto capitalized first letter of a say, and no punc = a period at end. - xenoroyal ten years ago

It's a decent idea.. Various key phrases and words for certain things wouldn't work then however. - istirith ten years ago

NT above. nt - istirith ten years ago

Need some input - subov ten years ago

h2h is fine. Complement swords nicely too. - Drokk ten years ago

Even with dex/evade change, sword/hand elf is stupid as fuck. - xenoroyal ten years ago

sword elf doesn't seem like a terrible idea. txt - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

Sword elf isn't the best, but it would work ok. I said the combo as a whole n/t - xenoroyal ten years ago

Is the only new top tier utility form the Cheetah? - happyorb ten years ago

trap door spider as well. ~ - abernyte ten years ago

[47 Lich Nec] Satebos the Transformed - infi ten years ago

Re: [47 Lich Nec] Satebos the Transformed - lightmage ten years ago

Re: [47 Lich Nec] Satebos the Transformed - Death_Claw ten years ago

It depends, are liches immune lightning? Cause thats all ravon uses ;) nt - NbM ten years ago

Immune negative. Think cold too. nt - Drokk ten years ago

Damnit, thats not me... Good job Satebos n/t - Shaun ten years ago

I bet that stings. I honestly feel for you - you deserve an undead hero :( nt - Yhorian(VIP) ten years ago

He will be hunted by three strongest cabals now. Should be good fight nt - dervish ten years ago

Lets see if this one survive the oncoming gankage. - Cerunnir(VIP) ten years ago

Its not like he holds hands with Ravon from what I have seen nt - NbM ten years ago

Re: Its not like he holds hands with Ravon from what I have seen nt - istirith ten years ago

Cool idea, but it wouldn't happen. - Splntrd ten years ago

On another note, I am glad they finally liched someone - NbM ten years ago

I think theres been quite a few attempts, but they quest died? n/t - xenoroyal ten years ago

Nep better get going on that Paladin. (nt) - briartangle ten years ago

Where's Niheriva when you need him? nt - Isildur(VIP) ten years ago

It's a good time to be fortress. - infi ten years ago

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