With Darwinistic evolution being the only thing taught....*IF* it was actually taught, instead of glossed over.
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<br>As it is, you will be lucky if you get as much as the following if you ask a highschool graduate about Darwin's theories.
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<br>"He saw different birds, and iguanas that swam, and big turtles. And this made him think up about evolution and how we evolved from the dinosaurs"
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<br>This is no joke. This is word for word what one of my neighbors said to me 2 years ago.
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<br>And, as sad as it is, it wasn't her fault. It was the schools.
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<br>I remember my highschool science courses well. I even still have the text books.
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<br>Not even the SLIGHTEST mention of the difference between micro and macro evolution (or adaptation and Speciation, respectively).
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<br>In more than one occasion, evidence of adaptation was used in my science books as "proof" of macro evolution.
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<br>As someone who has no small amount of scientific training myself, this bugs me to no end.
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<br>The *TRUTH* about Darwin's theories, is that there are more than a few holes in them. Holes that aren't at all easy to understand if you don't have a certain level of scientific basis.
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<br>The *TRUTH* is, that science's understandings of macro evolution over the last 30 years has gone through a massive change, which has brought up even more questions that just aren't answered in Darwin's theories.
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<br>Why?
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<br>Well, When darwin was making guestimates about the Time scales needed for adaption to turn into speciation, he was using(mainly, though admittedly not solely) the examples of the different Finches on Galapagos. the different bill sizes based on diet being the thing most people remember.
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<br>his ideas on the time scales needed for speciation were accepted in the scientific community almost without question. Because they seemed to somewhat fit the time scales of earth's history.
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<br>They would still be accepted as "fact" that you could lose your tenured job for debating...if it weren't for a few really inconvenient truths that became so blaring over time that they could no longer be swept under the rug as "theories of crackpots who are DARING to disagree with the GOD DARWIN, WHO'S WORD IS LAW AND INFALLIBLE"
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<br>What truths?
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<br>Well, for one, that the Finches Darwin saw weren't different species.
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<br>Depending on rainfall, One single individual bird can have changes in his bill greater than that Darwin used to delineate different species.
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<br>What was another? Oh, this little tiny thing called DNA. Genetics.
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<br>Probably none of you have heard yet, because there is still a massive movement to shut this kind of information up, but doing some of the most basic kinds of genetic tests on different "species" around the world are showing that many things that fall into the old and vastly inacurate "scientific naming conventions" of species aren't different species at all.
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<br>Of course, to agree that that is happening, the whole "latin naming conventions" for genus, species, and everything would have to be re-done. And if that is done, it will be obvious that for decades those scientists who have been viciously going after anyone who has a different theory than them have actually not been as infallible as they have seemed.
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<br>the problem *I* have, isn't that darwinistic evolution is the only thing taught.
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<br>My problem is that not even the REAL darwinistic evolution is taught. There *ARE* problems and questions with Darwins theories that aren't explainable within the context of his theories.
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<br>Teach those! Challenge the students to be the ones who go out there and explain those problems and questions!
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<br>But no. teaching Anything other than
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<br>"Darwin's evolution is as close to fact as we will ever get, and anything else, any questioning of that is hocus-pocus belief in the easter bunny and the great pumpkin and the great spagetti monster and santa clause all rolled into one"
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<br>Is anathema to most "scientists" that the major media wants to find today, as well as to most school boards across the nation. it doesn't matter that what they are teaching about darwin's theories is not complete, or entirely correct. As long as the little brains full of mush come away with the idea that "Darwin's theories are incontrovertable and that anyone who wants to discuss them criticall is a raving lunatic"....they are happy.
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<br>who cares about truth.
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<br>not them.
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