> The exact quote from me was the following:
<br>>
<br>> "Do I think science has a place in our schools? Maybe. I'm not sure it deserves the place it currently *has* in our schools."
<br>>
<br>
<br>You just implied, right there, with that 'Maybe', that science does not have ANY place in our schools.
<br>
<br>I don't know if you did it on purpose, but this is a pretty fucking common spin tactic. Say something which has ridiculous implications, to reframe the debate, and then offer something "more rational" which just happens to be your point.
<br>
<br>
<br>>
<br>> There's a vast gap of difference between what I said and what you have imagined that I have said.
<br>
<br>No.
<br>
<br> In fact, in my opinion, our science curriculum tries to teach too much in too short of a period of time with aim of having a broad "general understanding" of science.
<br>
<br>Look at what you just wrote: "<i>In fact, in my opinion</i>", implies that I must have misunderstood what you're saying.
<br>
<br>This is a common tactic when confronted with one's own words - reframe the discussion, TO IMPLY that the opponent didn't understand what you were saying.
<br>
<br>I did understand it - perhaps you didn't. Or perhaps you were (subconsciously?) trying to slip in a jab, via suggestion.
<br>
<br>
<br>>The net result, is a non-existent understanding whatsoever of science. And studies regarding the retention rate of that information confirm as much.
<br>
<br>These two statements do not connect. By poor wording, you're saying that STUDIES CONFIRM your statement that there is NO UNDERSTANDING of science.
<br>
<br>That is a complete, total lie - and you know it. So, you will respond by saying, "no no - studies confirm that we are teaching too much, too fast."
<br>
<br>Except that your words, are deliberately (or subconsciously) spun to <b>imply</b> a complete lie - which conveniently, backs up your thesis.
<br>
<br>
<br> > Furthermore, I question why it is placed of higher importance than reasoning & financial management, both of which are necessities to make good choices in life.
<br>>
<br>
<br>See, now that you've spun the attack away from any merit, you go on to suggest further - that it's not that you're against it, it's just that other things which are VITAL. spin spin spin.
<br>
<br>> But that is besides the point. The point is that you read what I wrote and imagined a meaning totally different than what was written.
<br>
<br>
<br>And bring it home - "I'm just a poor misunderstood Republican, and your blind prejudices completely misinterpreted what I wrote!"
<br>
<br>
<br>No, Death_Claw, the point is - I know how to read, and I've studied hypnosis and NLP, and follow politics, and you are following the style that has been prevalent in right wing writing lately.
<br>
<br>It's a style that spins and lies very persuasively, and I'm calling you out on it.