Re: Just (a few) problems with your model

October 27, 2007 09:26AM
> You're not completely wrong, but, you're suggesting an unconstitutional system to deal with education. <br> <br>It's arguably a stronger position to say the current system of federal funding is unconstitutional. <br> <br>> Problem with your plan: People can't feed their kids, or people can't feed their kids right. <br>> Result of your plan: Millions of malnourished, obese and sick kids. <br> <br>Somehow people managed before we had school lunches. If parents neglect their children to the point that they become malnourished, there is a system in place to remove those children from their parents. <br> <br>> Your plan: expulsion used regularily <br>> Result of your plan: Millions of kids getting expelled, leading to a large population of uneducated violant kids who grow up to be violant criminals. <br> <br>Many of whom may become violent criminals <b>even if they stay in school</b>. You're also completely ignoring the possibility that such a policy might motivate some students to "shape up" in order to stay in school, thus <b>decreasing</b> the likelihood that they end up leading a life of crime. There could also be huge benefits for "the rest" of the students, who would benefit from an improved learning environment. <br> <br>> Your plan: Do away with gym equipment. <br>> Result of your plan: Unhealthy and obese population which will drain our health care system. <br> <br>If a kid is motivated enough to work out regularly at a school gym, or do what it takes to be on a competitive sports team, then he'll find other avenues to do that outside of school, if school suddenly stopped providing these services. <br> <br>> Your plan: Do away with books and use computers <br>> Result of your plan: You need a computer for every child. This makes sense economically, and I fully support it. <br> <br>I disagree with DeathClaw on this one. Computers are, for the most part, completely unnecessary to educate children (with the exception of courses specifically related to computing). Not only are they unnecessary, I'm seriously doubt whether they're cost-effective compared to, say, taking that money and giving it directly to teachers in the form of salary increases. <br> <br>Various people have written articles in the press lamenting this over-reliance on computers in the education system. I think Paul Allen may have written one. I'll see if I can dig it up. <br>
Subject Author Views Posted

Home schooled children score higher on national exams. ?

infi 1672 October 26, 2007 10:07AM

I don't doubt that it's true.

Lokain 510 October 26, 2007 10:34AM

That's not true either.

Death_Claw 611 October 26, 2007 10:37AM

I always wondered why...

Scrimbul 494 October 26, 2007 11:42AM

The irony for me...

Death_Claw 535 October 26, 2007 11:53AM

a minor point

Nivek 525 October 26, 2007 12:10PM

Thanks for the clarification. n/t

Death_Claw 549 October 26, 2007 12:16PM

All of my evidence is purely anecdotal

Lokain 581 October 26, 2007 12:16PM

Well, from what you're telling me, that's to be expected.

Scrimbul 481 October 26, 2007 12:44PM

In all actuality...

Scrimbul 548 October 26, 2007 11:37AM

Re: I don't doubt that it's true.

Isildur 541 October 26, 2007 12:16PM

Tim Tebow is the man. I love him. Seriously. And I hate Florida. nt

The Forsaken 543 October 26, 2007 03:46PM

Home schooled kid was at the dance tonight -nt

infi 554 October 26, 2007 06:24PM

Re: Home schooled children score higher on national exams. ?

Death_Claw 693 October 26, 2007 10:36AM

Re: Home schooled children score higher on national exams. ?

Isildur 593 October 26, 2007 12:10PM

Good points, especially inre to parent involvement.

Balrahd 497 October 26, 2007 12:14PM

Sorry, n/t in the above n/t.

Balrahd 466 October 26, 2007 12:18PM

I don't think that's so much the issue.

Death_Claw 1297 October 26, 2007 12:19PM

This report hand picks its data.

infi 552 October 26, 2007 12:22PM

The one I responded to you with was the Wall Street Journal.

Death_Claw 608 October 26, 2007 12:34PM

I'm only going to point out a glaring contradiction

infi 520 October 26, 2007 06:17PM

PS: 6am til 11:00pm day for me

infi 539 October 26, 2007 06:23PM

Nobody cares for your self-pity, dude.

Scrimbul 569 October 27, 2007 07:45AM

You totally spoke with 5 fingers to his face n/t

Lokain 545 October 27, 2007 07:54AM

I worked computer repair in a retail environment.

Scrimbul 541 October 27, 2007 07:59AM

I had nothing against your previous post

Lokain 516 October 27, 2007 08:45AM

Oh it was nothing against you.

Scrimbul 499 October 27, 2007 10:32AM

No, he's lobbying for a raise. :P nt

DurNominator 576 October 27, 2007 09:03AM

Summers, Winter Break and Spring Break off suck too, eh? nt

Lokain 477 October 27, 2007 05:47PM

Re: I'm only going to point out a glaring contradiction

Death_Claw 498 October 26, 2007 07:32PM

I'm going to keep going, just because I can talk about this for hours.

Death_Claw 499 October 26, 2007 07:58PM

Just (a few) problems with your model

infi 544 October 27, 2007 04:48AM

Well, here's where our beliefs differ.

Death_Claw 481 October 27, 2007 05:42AM

More explanation about the text book thing, from prior experience.

Death_Claw 513 October 27, 2007 06:52AM

Arr. I replied to the wrong thread below.

Balrahd 515 October 27, 2007 08:03AM

Could you link your other post? I'd be interested in your reasoning. n/t

Death_Claw 500 October 27, 2007 08:07AM

Basically...

Death_Claw 478 October 27, 2007 08:43AM

FWIW I agree completely n/t

Lokain 521 October 27, 2007 07:21AM

Thanks. I think a lot of people do, just the squeaky wheel gets the oil. n/t

Death_Claw 510 October 27, 2007 07:24AM

Re: Well, here's where our beliefs differ.

Chalupah 543 October 27, 2007 08:45PM

Some questions.

Paul Ott 569 October 27, 2007 07:31AM

I didn't even think like that and I agree with answering those questions. nt

Scrimbul 554 October 27, 2007 07:39AM

Re: Just (a few) problems with your model

Isildur 507 October 27, 2007 09:26AM

Re: Computers

Death_Claw 525 October 27, 2007 09:33AM

Books can be used again, though.

DurNominator 560 October 27, 2007 10:31AM

Whereas computers explode the moment you're done with them. n/t

Death_Claw 628 October 28, 2007 02:54PM

I'm still waiting to hear how homework is done in your system.

DurNominator 553 October 29, 2007 12:08AM

I do not study well with pc n/t

Graham 550 October 30, 2007 01:57PM

A slightly different perspective -

Chalupah 531 October 27, 2007 08:35PM

Oh man, I need some drugs for this post.

Chalupah 558 October 27, 2007 08:24PM

Here's our disconnect.

Death_Claw 527 October 28, 2007 03:08PM

You don't have kids, do you?

Chalupah 533 October 27, 2007 07:59PM

Regarding &quot;brain drain&quot;

Death_Claw 566 October 28, 2007 03:22PM

You're both saying some true things. txt

Isildur 546 October 27, 2007 09:14AM

I agree but I'd like to emphasize one issue.

Death_Claw 575 October 27, 2007 09:20AM

This is a good place to point out our difference:

Chalupah 530 October 27, 2007 08:51PM

Yes, I do say lets aim lower.

Death_Claw 505 October 28, 2007 03:00PM

And furthermore a difference between you and I.

Death_Claw 491 October 28, 2007 03:27PM



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