Agree..

April 24, 2015 03:08AM
There seems to be a void without Scion since I've been back playing in terms of cabal dynamics. Even if they weren't strong in numbers, having a non-Empire evil entity really did make things more interesting than they feel right now. I wasn't around when it was taken out, so I assume it must have been pretty dead. Unfortunately I don't think Scarab fills that gab, and have really only seen Jeede active and by nature the cabal seems to fly under the radar.

This game can be simply amazing and addictive to play, if only we could bump up our numbers a little. People in general seem a bit more reticent to play/log-in when they're not in power, maybe it's always been like that but if people stuck it out in the tough times (embrace the suffering!) it would be a more fun hero range than the current pendulum swings. There are a few characters at hero range that will probably never have played a minute without their cabal item. It also seems like there is way less looting than I ever remembered, which really should encourage players to take more risks. I always found most of the fun to be in trying to regain your item, taking risks, getting your shiny set a bit dirty.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2015 03:13AM by icthaen.
Subject Author Posted

What we really need is an active IMM in EST PM

Tadam April 23, 2015 05:41PM

Basically the imms need to close hell so they can all play fortress again and I can play Empire (n/t)

Elystan April 24, 2015 03:49AM

So true....

Zruulg April 24, 2015 08:50AM

Do it more better. Hell is not the reason. (n/t)

Frosty April 24, 2015 04:25PM

Hell is clearly the reason

Elystan April 25, 2015 02:14AM

No, it's not. It's a combination of things, one main one being the snow is gone and it's warm and sunny outside. Quit crying about hell. You're being dumb.

Frosty April 25, 2015 06:35AM

It was warm and sunny outside several times in the years I played, and everyone played the best exploration cabal at the time (fort) (n/t)

Elystan April 25, 2015 08:33AM

Sometimes there are things that come out of your mouth...

torak April 25, 2015 11:18AM

Well before hell opened I didn't see any other cabals doing Tiamat runs. Fort got herald support sure, but if you wanted to PvE fort was the place to be. (n/t)

Elystan April 25, 2015 11:30AM

Sorry dude you're flat out wrong about fort being the best for exploring.

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 03:49PM

Actually Warren has a ton of ST "goodie" exploration trips done. Your main point is correct, but I'd argue Silent is probably just a slight lean to Evils. NT

Sam April 26, 2015 11:56AM

I don't think Warren has the mantime me and your bro put in as evils. 5-6 characters in a row, at least. A couple thousand hours minimum. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 27, 2015 09:34AM

Probably right. But he brought out those rings of pure light and the uniform sashes for the first time ever back in like 2009. NT

Sam April 27, 2015 10:02AM

"Abusing" as you say, or actually just finding creative solutions, is part of any good explorer's skill set. (n/t)

Murphy April 25, 2015 03:57PM

Soooo.....Fort shines more on.....ONE fight? How many Archmages has fort downed? How many Archdevils? The black serpent of Yzekion? None with the exception of maybe a devil or two. Empire is the most proven explore cabal. Istendil proved that. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 04:02PM

Not even fort. A group of uncaballed goodies could do it. So it's really REALLY moot what Ely is trying to say. (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 04:14PM

Most goodies don't stay uncaballed, they join fort.

Elystan April 27, 2015 03:50AM

And?

Frosty April 27, 2015 04:23AM

There're four things a person can watch forever, fourth being people calling each other asses on qhcf :) (n/t)

Kstatida April 27, 2015 07:03AM

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED! :) (n/t)

Frosty April 27, 2015 07:59AM

And what makes me even more happy is that I don't pay you a penny for all that fun I get :) (n/t)

Kstatida April 27, 2015 11:04AM

There's no And (n/t)

Elystan April 27, 2015 04:28AM

Everything else aside, bottom line just comes down to Empire being better all around for exploring as a general rule. It's just got years of steady results behind it. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 04:04PM

Leave murphy ALONE! (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 04:13PM

I'm not arguing about which cabal is better for exploring. I made a remark on a related topic. (n/t)

Murphy April 25, 2015 04:07PM

Fair enough. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 04:13PM

God damn doublepost. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 04:04PM

Either way it has nothing to do with fort, which was the point he was TRYING to make, and failed. (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 03:58PM

I can agree with that. (n/t)

Murphy April 25, 2015 04:01PM

You called fort THE best exploration cabal, and you expect people to believe what you say?

Frosty April 25, 2015 11:39AM

If the others were better then why was fort doing the most PvE while hell was closed? (n/t)

Elystan April 25, 2015 11:41AM

1) That's not entirely accurate. 2) That doesn't explain which cabals power are better for PvE. (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 11:44AM

Paladins and healers are better. The cabal powers are irrelevant (n/t)

Elystan April 25, 2015 11:52AM

One well played imperial healer can do what 3 healers or 5 paladins in fort could do. Cabal powers are not irrelevant. (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 11:55AM

How many times did Empire kill Tiamat before hell opened? How many times did Fort? I win, you lose, game over. (n/t)

Elystan April 25, 2015 12:00PM

Nothing to retort? You sure got quiet. Ohh I get it, when you think you're right(for stupid reasons) you act like a blubbering asshole. Then when you're proved wrong you turtle up like a bitch. Noted. (n/t)

Frosty April 26, 2015 06:47AM

I'm sorry I wasn't spamming f5 on recent messages

Elystan April 26, 2015 07:51AM

Spoken like a true little bitch.

Frosty April 26, 2015 08:13AM

I could have perfected defenses and be 3-0 on a fresh A-P in 10 hours

Elystan April 26, 2015 08:46AM

:3 (n/t)

Frosty April 26, 2015 08:15AM

Tiamat is one mob. How many Archdevils, Archmages, or Major explore area bosses does Fort have over Empire? Empire wins, hands down. By miles and miles. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 04:05PM

Also, one of the times they took down tiamat was with the help of nexus, while light was too strong, but nexus helped anyway and got in trouble for it. (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 03:56PM

REVISIONIST HISTORY!

zannon April 27, 2015 03:36AM

The fact still remains.

Frosty April 28, 2015 06:15PM

This isn't a game. You're being an ass. Fort used a goodie only hammer that progged annihilates on tiamat in order to be able to kill it. THAT is how they do it. You fuckwad. End of line. (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 03:38PM

:3 (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 03:51PM

So it's okay for the goodies to play let's explore the MUD, but it's not okay for evils to. Like I said before, you're being dumb.

Frosty April 25, 2015 08:39AM

So I was right and the Empire swing is about hell reopening? (n/t)

Elystan April 25, 2015 09:30AM

Or this is the classic case of you THINKING you're right about something that has a multitude of variables that you're ignoring. You're saying a group of people exploring an area is a BAD thing, which is just fucking stupid.

Frosty April 25, 2015 11:32AM

All I can really say to this is "u mad bro" (n/t)

Elystan April 25, 2015 11:42AM

I'm not mad, I just don't like people trying to spread depression. It's gross. (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 11:46AM

Elystan is right. The obvious solution here is to let goodies explore Hell. However that will probably never happen because the current crop of imms are mostly stubborn douchebags. (n/t)

sultan April 25, 2015 11:01AM

The only thing in your post that isn't complete bullshit is "goodies should be allowed to explore hell."

Frosty April 25, 2015 11:34AM

Frosty, have you noticed almost every thread on this entire forum is bookended by a slew of asinine comments by you?

sultan April 25, 2015 11:53AM

Re: "nobody likes you"

MiyagiYojimbo April 25, 2015 05:26PM

He certainly clogs up half the forum. The other half is filled with posts about you bitching about the imms not being fair to you. His posts are slightly less annoying than yours though. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 03:53PM

Asinine is the name of my next character. :P (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 11:55AM

Part of me wants them to all take over Herald and go on blood rampages with Whyisdan cheering them on. (n/t)

Falstaff April 24, 2015 06:52AM

U kray kray. THE IMMS NEED TO MAKE THE GAME HOW ********************I******************** WANT IT SO **********************I**************** CAN PLAY HOW **************************I************************* WANT TO! U kray. (n/t)

Frosty April 24, 2015 05:24AM

Forgive me for championing my own perspective but it's the only one I have (n/t)

Elystan April 24, 2015 05:45AM

Don't let it get to you man. Lots of people are in the same situation. (n/t)

Frosty April 24, 2015 05:51AM

You mean like Bruce Jenner? (n/t)

Rhyaldrin April 24, 2015 06:04AM

You should do stand-up.

Frosty April 24, 2015 06:17AM

You could say it's your... default position.

Rhyaldrin April 24, 2015 05:48AM

If you're not with us you're against us

Elystan April 24, 2015 05:51AM

Hey we found something we agree on.

Rhyaldrin April 24, 2015 06:00AM

It's all for "the greater good." (n/t)

Frosty April 24, 2015 05:53AM

Easy now. It's not fascism when WE do it.

Rhyaldrin April 24, 2015 05:59AM

It's ok because it's YOUR dog... (n/t)

NbM(VIP) April 24, 2015 06:02AM

:) (n/t)

Frosty April 24, 2015 06:16AM

Someone IC needs fort imms to ok fort hell trips

Quas April 24, 2015 03:59AM

I organized one as Athioles.

Rhyaldrin April 24, 2015 05:12AM

I remember that. I went on a hell trip as my first ever hero :) (n/t)

Murphy April 24, 2015 10:18AM

If you go past a certain point more than one time as a goodie, you get turned neutral automatically. Thats why Challen only led the knights there 1 time. 2 times ruins a character. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 24, 2015 05:20AM

100% incorrect. (n/t)

alansmithee April 24, 2015 07:08PM

Alignment is set via number, it isn't hard to understand that certain events are hard coded to drop that number. Jesus. (n/t)

NbM(VIP) May 01, 2015 05:32AM

And just so you have context to understand it

NbM(VIP) May 01, 2015 05:35AM

There are also quests that affect your alignment number. Evils if you want to stay fully evil, don't help lost children. And that's just one example. (n/t)

Frosty May 01, 2015 05:49AM

Not really. The neutral to evil takes a lot longer, not goodie to neutral. Having had it happen to me personally with a goodie, I would say its a random shot between 2-3 times before youre neutral. Been there, done that. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 05:17AM

Again, what you said was (and remains) 100% incorrect. (n/t)

alansmithee April 25, 2015 06:09AM

I don't think you know what you're talking about. I've spent a lot more time there than you, I've seen the turns happen several times. Sorry. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 06:11AM

For the third time: what you wrote was 100% wrong. I don't care what you think, but others should know not to accept your statement as true. (n/t)

alansmithee April 25, 2015 08:26AM

How DARE YOU question The Graatch's word. Never is he wrong about things.

Frosty April 25, 2015 06:38AM

Apparently he wasn't right about never playing again if he didn't make the pillar. Lol.

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 06:39AM

Knowing your statement is wrong is related to my not playing for years now how exactly? You are speaking of an event that occurred almost 20 years ago. I was there, you were not. So now you're wrong, twice. (n/t)

alansmithee April 25, 2015 08:27AM

First of all, buddy, I've been playing this game as long as you have. So I WAS there. Second of all, I was right, twice. You did play a character after your assassin. Kiss my ass. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 25, 2015 03:36PM

Still 100% wrong with what you said. Not going to repeat myself again. (n/t)

alansmithee April 26, 2015 11:33AM

First off, Daev called you out for playing a character after your assassin. You cried and denied it, but he flat named you. Second of all, I'm still right, and I still have more experience than you in the matter. Court is adjourned. (n/t)

Gaplemo April 27, 2015 09:36AM

You're not getting it. It doesn't matter what you want to deflect with on other topics (though you're wrong there, too). The simple fact remains: what you said is 100% untrue. (n/t)

alansmithee April 28, 2015 05:59PM

You must be a shitty lawyer. You keep saying that, but you haven't proven anything or provided one shred of evidence. I hope you're better at your RL job than this. Also, I'm right.

Gaplemo April 29, 2015 06:09AM

Pity you're still wrong. And now on other items as well, but that's beside the point. What you wrote was, and remains, 100% wrong. (n/t)

alansmithee April 30, 2015 06:56PM

I am willing to listen to your evidence but absent that you aren't as credible as torak/gap because they have demonstrated a high level of knowledge. You have demonstrated nothing (n/t)

Quas May 01, 2015 04:31AM

He doesn't have any. He's just trying to stay relevant in some way. When he is wrong, he never admits it. Just like he wouldn't admit it when Daev called him out on the graveyard for that character he played after his assassin. (n/t)

Gaplemo May 01, 2015 10:27AM

Stay relevant? Now you're just being a moron as opposed to merely being mistaken, which you still are, about what you wrote at the start.

alansmithee May 01, 2015 03:36PM

You're still not explaining how you're right. (n/t)

Frosty May 01, 2015 03:48PM

Because he can't, and he likely isn't

NbM(VIP) May 01, 2015 03:52PM

This. (n/t)

Gaplemo May 02, 2015 09:45AM

You can say the curse more than twice as a goodie and not be turned evil. n/t

jalim May 01, 2015 04:00PM

How? (n/t)

Frosty April 30, 2015 06:59PM

How? (n/t)

Frosty April 28, 2015 06:11PM

Well....

NbM(VIP) April 27, 2015 10:01AM

Daevryn was certain enough it was him that he said on the death thread im 100% it was you. And this was back when they actually were rumored to be doing doing the IP tracking notoriously, before the big imm fallout. Was a different time, I'll trust daevs  (n/t)

Gaplemo April 27, 2015 11:35AM

I thought he was joking about how you said, and continue to say, that you quit playing the game when it's quite obvious you DO still play :3 (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 08:32AM

100% incorrect. (n/t)

alansmithee April 25, 2015 08:33AM

So he wasn't joking about you claiming you quit playing after sususudio? What else could he mean by, " Apparently he wasn't right about never playing again if he didn't make the pillar." ? Graatch you're going kray kray man. (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 08:35AM

Ouch! That one's gotta hurt. Though I totally agree that SuSuSudio belongs on the pillar. (n/t)

Frosty April 25, 2015 06:41AM

That's stupid. (n/t)

Rhyaldrin April 24, 2015 05:41AM

That wouldn't be any better (n/t)

Elystan April 24, 2015 04:07AM

Are you fucking nutz? A group of righteous goodies following the most evil group in thera through the circles of hell? That's fucking epic and I would LOVE to see it. I'm not the only one either. You crazy. You kray kray. (n/t)

Frosty April 24, 2015 05:21AM

Agree..

icthaen April 24, 2015 03:08AM

Scion was active

Ayathkiran April 24, 2015 07:27AM



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