The Joker Knows.

September 28, 2017 09:44AM
The player is the weapon. That's the thing most people miss. How well the player player-kills is the most critical factor.

I'm always reminded of Jinroh's dwarf who had no skills practiced. He just wielded a staff and went through life. He had Trib cabal powers and a restrung nap skill. He managed to kill 9 people in the character's life, and one of them was the drillmaster in a 1 on 1. Drillmaster was played by Graatch. Jinroh, who's a friend of mine, has been behind a lot of really odd combos and gotten tons and TONS of kills. People bitch, then try the combo, and never reproduce his results.

The question is then, what do he and others like him do so well? A few things:

1. They have an idea of how their build will work and experiment to get it right.
2. They sense early if they should run.
3. They run away well.
4. They chase well. This includes knowing where their prey is likely to go, where people recall too, and just mechanically timing their steps and their attacks to not waste keystrokes.
5. Knowing the number of steps you have to take and not over or under shooting them is key. For example, used to be the Eternal Star was nine moves east of market square (or was it 14?) then south. You gain a lot of ground on people by entering exactly the right number of moves with no stacking but also as fast as the buffer can take them.
6. They have a sense of what abilities will do that is independent of forum think. They can trust their own experience, not rely on the group think of others.
7. They use the right ability for the right situation. Damage, lag, flee, low lag moves, high lag moves, sometimes no moves so you are ready to chase instantly.
8. They know where to find people. When I kill someone for the first time, I look in their bag to find out where they shop and get preps. Back when your mage only had one source for a/b/s I used to always know that for all my enemies. I killed a lot of mages in the middle of trying to get their barrier rod. People who use blowfish have a place they like to eat it... etc. Interestingly I have this data cataloged for certain players too. Back in the day I used to give Jerrotard fits because he was so easy to spot and his patterns never changed. I've killed his characters probably 50+ times just because of this strategy.

In PK this matters more than anything. Nepenthe, Marcus, Jinroh - they'll beat an average player every time no matter what they are playing.

The only way to develop this ability is to PK...a lot. I'm not as good as those guys, but I got a whole lot better when I started going balls out trying to kill people. Most people get too conservative too soon in their CF career. If you look at a post below I explained how I would rank and retrieve when I was alone against 6-15 enemies. I learned a lot that way...just trying over and over to make something work.

Four people raiding you? You can either A. not go, B. go and see if you can kill ONE. If you choose A, you might live, but you'll never improve your skills. If you choose B, eventually you'll figure out how to get one. Then two, then three, then four.

As to your more specific questions regarding gear, preps, builds and their respective advantage that knowledge is case by case and a product of the above. For example, as a shifter I value preps over gear. As a warrior, less so. I have a feel for this after years of trying to make different things work and getting in PK fights where I didn't have much chance to -win- but had a lot of chance to -learn.-

Hope that helps.
Subject Author Posted

Let's try... ASK THE JOKER... and I shall reveal all my closely guarded CF secrets.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 08:22AM

Okay now that I know who you are and see your BFF re-IMM'd this random forum drama shitfest makes sense. n/t

jalim October 23, 2017 02:39PM

What are the two best chars and tactics to kill a Warrior Berserker from the Village?

frob October 06, 2017 07:57AM

Orc + fallback/bash

Quas October 06, 2017 08:24AM

This, as a shig-ru adapted orc. See: Krunk (n/t)

Frosty October 06, 2017 10:55AM

Interesting...

frob October 06, 2017 09:04AM

Angel/Demon conjie if you are willing/able to prep highly.

laearrist October 06, 2017 11:26AM

Mummy/wight (n/t)

Quas October 06, 2017 10:36AM

Have any old logs worth sharing? (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 06:00PM

Ooh, I have one. Why, after he killed Viscrinth, did Zorsaul have to justify his actions to Twist? (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 02:05AM

The Joker does not Know. (n/t)

The_Joker October 03, 2017 11:42AM

Fair enough. So, who played Zorsaul? (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 01:50PM

Imm drama?

Luis October 01, 2017 07:53PM

El Joker Comprendo

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:15PM

cleave factors

ellokraine October 01, 2017 04:05PM

The Joker Knows...kinda

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:07PM

Chance was lowered afterward. I'd guess something like 1% chance now. Was ~5%

laearrist October 02, 2017 12:10PM

Oh gee. You don't say... *eyeroll* (n/t)

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:15PM

Who the fuck are you?

Kstatida October 01, 2017 06:53AM

Just a guy who has been around forever. (n/t)

The_Joker October 01, 2017 08:24AM

Why didnt any of the imms shut down Silent Tower once you saw how powerful it was and how it could be abused.

Tolnum September 30, 2017 06:53PM

The Joker knows about 20+ years of Nepenthe drama.

The_Joker October 01, 2017 06:13AM

What was so bad about Baerinika (I missed most of her reign) (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 01:56AM

The Joker Knows

The_Joker October 03, 2017 11:45AM

Shrug, seems my search-fu is lacking.

Mjothvitnir October 03, 2017 01:25PM

I thought it was removed (n/t)

demos October 03, 2017 05:33PM

Depends who you ask

zannon October 03, 2017 03:23AM

Sycophant detected.

Matrik October 03, 2017 04:15PM

Cabal rules are not static though

zannon October 04, 2017 06:35AM

Nothing to do with rules.

Matrik October 04, 2017 07:06AM

I have been away too long

zannon October 04, 2017 09:02AM

Figured you would respond that way. It's the sycophant's purview.

Matrik October 04, 2017 11:04AM

Re: Figured you would respond that way. It's the sycophant's purview.

zannon October 05, 2017 02:26AM

Re: Figured you would respond that way. It's the sycophant's purview.

Matrik October 05, 2017 05:32AM

Baer gave her followers the choice of the maran eternity deal or another option involving stuff specific to her religion/shrine.

jalim October 04, 2017 11:21AM

You're welcome to make up as much fluff as you like Jalim. (n/t)

Matrik October 04, 2017 12:35PM

Thanks. I'm just explaining why there was the difference in her religion and the example you used saying she 'did maran wrong'. n/t

jalim October 04, 2017 12:40PM

Explanations with false details are fluff. (n/t)

Matrik October 04, 2017 12:41PM

Okay. n/t

jalim October 04, 2017 12:45PM

Kinda silly to argue about Maran with Shokai...but...there it is. (n/t)

The_Joker October 03, 2017 04:40PM

Oh, snap! Matrik, you just got full looted by a post. IDK what anyone's even talking about, but I agree with Matrik on the mudsex. Ew. (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 05:58PM

Lol. He was agreeing with me dingus :)

Matrik October 04, 2017 05:28AM

I guess I full looted myself. At least now I have all new EQ! (n/t)

saagkri October 04, 2017 09:21AM

I see your full loot and raise you a full sac. Consider us both naked.

Matrik October 04, 2017 11:08AM

Kinda right.

The_Joker October 03, 2017 11:50AM

Every time i hear baer - erics song from sp plays in my mind n/t

mharldarn October 03, 2017 03:56AM

Noone hates Umiron

Kstatida October 03, 2017 03:43AM

Re: Noone hates Umiron

zannon October 03, 2017 04:44AM

Sounds about right.

Matrik October 01, 2017 09:26AM

and Destuvius. (n/t)

The_Joker October 01, 2017 09:38AM

You still can

Kstatida October 01, 2017 05:38AM

The Joker legitimately knows who played Zorszaul - and no I haven't heard anyone correctly guess. (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 11:03AM

Huh...I never actually wondered who played Zors...

Mjothvitnir October 02, 2017 01:42PM

Valg had really close to 0 PK skill. :) (n/t)

The_Joker October 02, 2017 03:10PM

Heh....so do I....

Mjothvitnir October 02, 2017 07:41PM

The Joker will reveal if Jalim says genuinely nice things about him and his characters. Muahah. (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 12:34PM

Yeah, I'm interested in chars you played, too. Even the perma L15 thief from 20yrs ago. (n/t)

saagkri September 29, 2017 02:11PM

Funny, because I learned to PK with a series of exploding-heart assassins all called Wun-something. (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 04:12PM

Who did you play right after the purge? When you could still assassinate mobs? Don't say Triln. (n/t)

saagkri September 29, 2017 07:42PM

I barely remember who I played two years ago. :( I think Dryaven - a name I reused later. (n/t)

The_Joker September 30, 2017 05:28AM

I don't really know who you are or any of your characters though. n/t

jalim September 29, 2017 02:03PM

Nevermind, 2 minute forum search reveals...

jalim September 29, 2017 02:08PM

And you deleted a catoblepas in favor of playing Agilus.

Murphy September 29, 2017 02:33PM

lolz (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 04:05PM

No regerts. n/t

jalim September 29, 2017 03:52PM

Uhhh...you're hilariously delusional.

The_Joker September 29, 2017 02:16PM

that is maybe the second time I've mentioned it n/t

jalim September 29, 2017 03:54PM

I'd say Nep. Whoever it was I'm pretty sure had issues with the truth as well. (n/t)

saagkri September 29, 2017 12:32PM

Who? (n/t)

laearrist September 29, 2017 12:32PM

Some questions

Kez September 28, 2017 08:53PM

The Joker Knows...but cannot respond to that many questions in one post. (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 05:48AM

Thank you for your time and detailed responses.

Kez September 29, 2017 05:33PM

8. How does The Joker hunt for PKs

The_Joker September 29, 2017 11:03AM

7. Tricks for skill/spell practice.

The_Joker September 29, 2017 10:23AM

6) Explore and observe XP.

The_Joker September 29, 2017 10:14AM

Earning imm xp through gameplay.

The_Joker September 29, 2017 08:09AM

3,5. Role Writing for Maximum Rewards

The_Joker September 29, 2017 07:53AM

Example of shorter, RC-winning role of mine: Dungard (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 07:53AM

Any other roles available in PBF?

frob October 01, 2017 04:26PM

Grugga Wugga had a fun one. Stevers might like it. :)

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:29PM

Hilarious!

frob October 05, 2017 03:33PM

A couple

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:04PM

Dryaven, Yunno, Icilio and Dungard

frob October 05, 2017 04:13PM

The name of the duergar smith is Pzandra. Tarni is the dwarven one.

Murphy October 02, 2017 07:03PM

Well. Shit. (n/t)

The_Joker October 03, 2017 11:45AM

BOOM! You just got full looted. So, who played Zorsaul? (n/t)

saagkri October 06, 2017 05:21AM

2. Most Powerful PK Combo for New Player at Hero

The_Joker September 29, 2017 06:28AM

Just so you know, they broke flyto.

Murphy October 01, 2017 05:01PM

Only one you missed was 5 minutes after you log in.

jalim October 02, 2017 01:51AM

1. The Best Legacies

The_Joker September 29, 2017 06:14AM

I'm considering a scroll thief

saagkri September 28, 2017 11:56AM

Razor chain.

Matrik September 28, 2017 02:28PM

Duo. ;) (n/t)

Frosty September 28, 2017 02:26PM

I do know of a scroll that casts L60 PWK

saagkri September 28, 2017 02:37PM

Here The Joker is of little help.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 12:04PM

You are my only network. (n/t)

saagkri September 28, 2017 01:57PM

Re: Here The Joker is of little help.

saagkri September 28, 2017 12:16PM

Re: Here The Joker is of little help.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 12:44PM

Arcane lore is spellcraft for scrolls. n/t

jalim September 28, 2017 01:36PM

Let me get this straight...

saagkri September 28, 2017 01:56PM

The Joker cannot confirm this is accurate. (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 02:55PM

Jalim is flat out wrong. It's not spellcraft for thieves. It just makes your success rate higher on the scroll skill. (n/t)

The_Joker October 02, 2017 06:40PM

I'm glad you can read officials too. Umiron did clarify this 2 days ago.

jalim October 03, 2017 01:08AM

I'm sorry for picking on you. That was a bully move and I shouldn't have done it. (n/t)

The_Joker October 03, 2017 12:02PM

It's okay. We do not all have to get along all the time but I still love all my CF bros. Funnyone more than most. n/t

jalim October 03, 2017 05:15PM

Here's one: What happened in your personal life that prompted you to seek attention here?

Stevers September 28, 2017 10:52AM

The Stevers Knows.

Stevers September 28, 2017 11:03AM

DO NOT SPEAK HIS NAME. He has crumbled before me in defeat and thus is no longer here. The only "accident" was waiting as long as I did. (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:06AM

The Joker Knows.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:03AM

Play the game, it's still fun if you have a sense of humor.

Frosty September 28, 2017 02:31PM

That sounds like a real hoot. (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 02:52PM

The Stevers Responds.

Stevers September 28, 2017 11:09AM

The Facebook story is 100% true. Ridiculous, right? (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:10AM

Re: Let's try... ASK THE JOKER... and I shall reveal all my closely guarded CF secrets.

ellokraine September 28, 2017 09:21AM

The Joker Knows.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 09:44AM

Strong response and accurate

ellokraine September 28, 2017 11:14AM

I was thinking what you're thinking

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:24AM

Re: I was thinking what you're thinking

Quas September 28, 2017 07:24PM

Start Small...

shane September 28, 2017 08:41AM

Re: Start Small...

saagkri September 28, 2017 11:50AM

This. Except maybe not head. (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:52AM

The Joker Knows.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 09:01AM

Re: The Joker Knows.

shane September 28, 2017 09:15AM

Oh yea.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 09:18AM

Everything else is on that shaman. nt

TheProphet October 01, 2017 02:30PM



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