1. The Best Legacies

September 29, 2017 06:14AM
It's situational, you understand...like the best legacies for doing what?

However, since you seem to be asking PK related questions I'll go that direction. Hope that's okay.

One of the things everyone should do is use the amazing PK stats tool. Search the top 20 highest KpH warriors and look for commonality. While this doesn't yield the truest answer, necessarily, it is very useful information. Sometimes you'll do this to follow the tried and true trends, other times you'll do it to buck them.

Legacies that everyone takes for good reason:

1. Striking the Shadows Footfall

This is the best legacy in the game. Back when no one used to take it Nep was up in immland wondering WTF. His (nearly) exact quote to the rest of us was, "It does more for you than any other legacy. At full effect it's like have four legacies for the price of one."

2. Greeting the Avalanche

Command denial is the most effective way to kill people. It's just plain simple and requires very little skill. If you can bash and out damage them then bash bash bash. See also: bash; bash;bash flurry!

(Always of note to me the ((arguably)) two best legacies in the game are mutually exclusive. Those that benefit from STSF don't benefit from GTA, typically.)

Legacies that fit my play style really well:

1. Riddle of Resilience.

Probably my personal favorite legacy. Typically when you're a powerhouse (from years of playing and knowing what you're doing) people who don't flee will try to steal stats. This is especially true if you can kill them through command denial or burst damage. As I tend to build my warriors for these two things it's common that I benefit from covering stats. Riddle + good stat covering armor makes it impossible to lower stats below racial max. That destroys the most commonly deadly warrior build in the game - the dagger/stsf elf and all its variants. Riddle is particularly strong when people don't know you have it and keep trying to kill you with a strategy that can never win.

2. Calming the Shadow's Tempest

Second to riddle only because there's more warriors than casters. Clearing the air on what this legacy actually does, as there's a lot of misinformation, what it -actually- does is give you a second save vs. spell throw.

This means if you have low saves the legacy won't do a ton for you. If it's easy to miss one saving throw it's easy to miss two. If you have high saves though, man oh man, you'll literally save 99% of every spell thrown at you.

I'm kind of foggy on the details now, but you can also make a half of a saving throw. This means the spell hits you, but not as hard. It's easy to see against invoker spells. A complete failure of saves and you get hit for an unspeakable. A half and maybe you just eat an obliterate. A success and you take a mangle. You dig? Even with bad save vs. spell you'll almost always make the half save if you have calming.

Again, this works best when people don't know you have it. This legacy plus lash and you can defeat any shaman or mage. This legacy + spellbane? JesusGod. Ragers who actually want to be the bane of magic probably shouldn't take anything else.

A final thought on this legacy - having done it and forsaken thoughts probably a half dozen times each I can safely say I'd rather have Calming than Forsaken against shaman and druids and stuff. Saving throw > level of incoming commune + it works on more than communes.

Other legacies:

Any legacy can make you successful if it's paired with the right stuff. Many legacies make excellent one trick ponies that are sneaky and fun. I think some of your questions involved specific building so we can get into it there, but I've seen very bad ass builds around almost any legacy.
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Let's try... ASK THE JOKER... and I shall reveal all my closely guarded CF secrets.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 08:22AM

Okay now that I know who you are and see your BFF re-IMM'd this random forum drama shitfest makes sense. n/t

jalim October 23, 2017 02:39PM

What are the two best chars and tactics to kill a Warrior Berserker from the Village?

frob October 06, 2017 07:57AM

Orc + fallback/bash

Quas October 06, 2017 08:24AM

This, as a shig-ru adapted orc. See: Krunk (n/t)

Frosty October 06, 2017 10:55AM

Interesting...

frob October 06, 2017 09:04AM

Angel/Demon conjie if you are willing/able to prep highly.

laearrist October 06, 2017 11:26AM

Mummy/wight (n/t)

Quas October 06, 2017 10:36AM

Have any old logs worth sharing? (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 06:00PM

Ooh, I have one. Why, after he killed Viscrinth, did Zorsaul have to justify his actions to Twist? (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 02:05AM

The Joker does not Know. (n/t)

The_Joker October 03, 2017 11:42AM

Fair enough. So, who played Zorsaul? (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 01:50PM

Imm drama?

Luis October 01, 2017 07:53PM

El Joker Comprendo

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:15PM

cleave factors

ellokraine October 01, 2017 04:05PM

The Joker Knows...kinda

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:07PM

Chance was lowered afterward. I'd guess something like 1% chance now. Was ~5%

laearrist October 02, 2017 12:10PM

Oh gee. You don't say... *eyeroll* (n/t)

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:15PM

Who the fuck are you?

Kstatida October 01, 2017 06:53AM

Just a guy who has been around forever. (n/t)

The_Joker October 01, 2017 08:24AM

Why didnt any of the imms shut down Silent Tower once you saw how powerful it was and how it could be abused.

Tolnum September 30, 2017 06:53PM

The Joker knows about 20+ years of Nepenthe drama.

The_Joker October 01, 2017 06:13AM

What was so bad about Baerinika (I missed most of her reign) (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 01:56AM

The Joker Knows

The_Joker October 03, 2017 11:45AM

Shrug, seems my search-fu is lacking.

Mjothvitnir October 03, 2017 01:25PM

I thought it was removed (n/t)

demos October 03, 2017 05:33PM

Depends who you ask

zannon October 03, 2017 03:23AM

Sycophant detected.

Matrik October 03, 2017 04:15PM

Cabal rules are not static though

zannon October 04, 2017 06:35AM

Nothing to do with rules.

Matrik October 04, 2017 07:06AM

I have been away too long

zannon October 04, 2017 09:02AM

Figured you would respond that way. It's the sycophant's purview.

Matrik October 04, 2017 11:04AM

Re: Figured you would respond that way. It's the sycophant's purview.

zannon October 05, 2017 02:26AM

Re: Figured you would respond that way. It's the sycophant's purview.

Matrik October 05, 2017 05:32AM

Baer gave her followers the choice of the maran eternity deal or another option involving stuff specific to her religion/shrine.

jalim October 04, 2017 11:21AM

You're welcome to make up as much fluff as you like Jalim. (n/t)

Matrik October 04, 2017 12:35PM

Thanks. I'm just explaining why there was the difference in her religion and the example you used saying she 'did maran wrong'. n/t

jalim October 04, 2017 12:40PM

Explanations with false details are fluff. (n/t)

Matrik October 04, 2017 12:41PM

Okay. n/t

jalim October 04, 2017 12:45PM

Kinda silly to argue about Maran with Shokai...but...there it is. (n/t)

The_Joker October 03, 2017 04:40PM

Oh, snap! Matrik, you just got full looted by a post. IDK what anyone's even talking about, but I agree with Matrik on the mudsex. Ew. (n/t)

saagkri October 03, 2017 05:58PM

Lol. He was agreeing with me dingus :)

Matrik October 04, 2017 05:28AM

I guess I full looted myself. At least now I have all new EQ! (n/t)

saagkri October 04, 2017 09:21AM

I see your full loot and raise you a full sac. Consider us both naked.

Matrik October 04, 2017 11:08AM

Kinda right.

The_Joker October 03, 2017 11:50AM

Every time i hear baer - erics song from sp plays in my mind n/t

mharldarn October 03, 2017 03:56AM

Noone hates Umiron

Kstatida October 03, 2017 03:43AM

Re: Noone hates Umiron

zannon October 03, 2017 04:44AM

Sounds about right.

Matrik October 01, 2017 09:26AM

and Destuvius. (n/t)

The_Joker October 01, 2017 09:38AM

You still can

Kstatida October 01, 2017 05:38AM

The Joker legitimately knows who played Zorszaul - and no I haven't heard anyone correctly guess. (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 11:03AM

Huh...I never actually wondered who played Zors...

Mjothvitnir October 02, 2017 01:42PM

Valg had really close to 0 PK skill. :) (n/t)

The_Joker October 02, 2017 03:10PM

Heh....so do I....

Mjothvitnir October 02, 2017 07:41PM

The Joker will reveal if Jalim says genuinely nice things about him and his characters. Muahah. (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 12:34PM

Yeah, I'm interested in chars you played, too. Even the perma L15 thief from 20yrs ago. (n/t)

saagkri September 29, 2017 02:11PM

Funny, because I learned to PK with a series of exploding-heart assassins all called Wun-something. (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 04:12PM

Who did you play right after the purge? When you could still assassinate mobs? Don't say Triln. (n/t)

saagkri September 29, 2017 07:42PM

I barely remember who I played two years ago. :( I think Dryaven - a name I reused later. (n/t)

The_Joker September 30, 2017 05:28AM

I don't really know who you are or any of your characters though. n/t

jalim September 29, 2017 02:03PM

Nevermind, 2 minute forum search reveals...

jalim September 29, 2017 02:08PM

And you deleted a catoblepas in favor of playing Agilus.

Murphy September 29, 2017 02:33PM

lolz (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 04:05PM

No regerts. n/t

jalim September 29, 2017 03:52PM

Uhhh...you're hilariously delusional.

The_Joker September 29, 2017 02:16PM

that is maybe the second time I've mentioned it n/t

jalim September 29, 2017 03:54PM

I'd say Nep. Whoever it was I'm pretty sure had issues with the truth as well. (n/t)

saagkri September 29, 2017 12:32PM

Who? (n/t)

laearrist September 29, 2017 12:32PM

Some questions

Kez September 28, 2017 08:53PM

The Joker Knows...but cannot respond to that many questions in one post. (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 05:48AM

Thank you for your time and detailed responses.

Kez September 29, 2017 05:33PM

8. How does The Joker hunt for PKs

The_Joker September 29, 2017 11:03AM

7. Tricks for skill/spell practice.

The_Joker September 29, 2017 10:23AM

6) Explore and observe XP.

The_Joker September 29, 2017 10:14AM

Earning imm xp through gameplay.

The_Joker September 29, 2017 08:09AM

3,5. Role Writing for Maximum Rewards

The_Joker September 29, 2017 07:53AM

Example of shorter, RC-winning role of mine: Dungard (n/t)

The_Joker September 29, 2017 07:53AM

Any other roles available in PBF?

frob October 01, 2017 04:26PM

Grugga Wugga had a fun one. Stevers might like it. :)

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:29PM

Hilarious!

frob October 05, 2017 03:33PM

A couple

The_Joker October 02, 2017 12:04PM

Dryaven, Yunno, Icilio and Dungard

frob October 05, 2017 04:13PM

The name of the duergar smith is Pzandra. Tarni is the dwarven one.

Murphy October 02, 2017 07:03PM

Well. Shit. (n/t)

The_Joker October 03, 2017 11:45AM

BOOM! You just got full looted. So, who played Zorsaul? (n/t)

saagkri October 06, 2017 05:21AM

2. Most Powerful PK Combo for New Player at Hero

The_Joker September 29, 2017 06:28AM

Just so you know, they broke flyto.

Murphy October 01, 2017 05:01PM

Only one you missed was 5 minutes after you log in.

jalim October 02, 2017 01:51AM

1. The Best Legacies

The_Joker September 29, 2017 06:14AM

I'm considering a scroll thief

saagkri September 28, 2017 11:56AM

Razor chain.

Matrik September 28, 2017 02:28PM

Duo. ;) (n/t)

Frosty September 28, 2017 02:26PM

I do know of a scroll that casts L60 PWK

saagkri September 28, 2017 02:37PM

Here The Joker is of little help.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 12:04PM

You are my only network. (n/t)

saagkri September 28, 2017 01:57PM

Re: Here The Joker is of little help.

saagkri September 28, 2017 12:16PM

Re: Here The Joker is of little help.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 12:44PM

Arcane lore is spellcraft for scrolls. n/t

jalim September 28, 2017 01:36PM

Let me get this straight...

saagkri September 28, 2017 01:56PM

The Joker cannot confirm this is accurate. (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 02:55PM

Jalim is flat out wrong. It's not spellcraft for thieves. It just makes your success rate higher on the scroll skill. (n/t)

The_Joker October 02, 2017 06:40PM

I'm glad you can read officials too. Umiron did clarify this 2 days ago.

jalim October 03, 2017 01:08AM

I'm sorry for picking on you. That was a bully move and I shouldn't have done it. (n/t)

The_Joker October 03, 2017 12:02PM

It's okay. We do not all have to get along all the time but I still love all my CF bros. Funnyone more than most. n/t

jalim October 03, 2017 05:15PM

Here's one: What happened in your personal life that prompted you to seek attention here?

Stevers September 28, 2017 10:52AM

The Stevers Knows.

Stevers September 28, 2017 11:03AM

DO NOT SPEAK HIS NAME. He has crumbled before me in defeat and thus is no longer here. The only "accident" was waiting as long as I did. (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:06AM

The Joker Knows.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:03AM

Play the game, it's still fun if you have a sense of humor.

Frosty September 28, 2017 02:31PM

That sounds like a real hoot. (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 02:52PM

The Stevers Responds.

Stevers September 28, 2017 11:09AM

The Facebook story is 100% true. Ridiculous, right? (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:10AM

Re: Let's try... ASK THE JOKER... and I shall reveal all my closely guarded CF secrets.

ellokraine September 28, 2017 09:21AM

The Joker Knows.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 09:44AM

Strong response and accurate

ellokraine September 28, 2017 11:14AM

I was thinking what you're thinking

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:24AM

Re: I was thinking what you're thinking

Quas September 28, 2017 07:24PM

Start Small...

shane September 28, 2017 08:41AM

Re: Start Small...

saagkri September 28, 2017 11:50AM

This. Except maybe not head. (n/t)

The_Joker September 28, 2017 11:52AM

The Joker Knows.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 09:01AM

Re: The Joker Knows.

shane September 28, 2017 09:15AM

Oh yea.

The_Joker September 28, 2017 09:18AM

Everything else is on that shaman. nt

TheProphet October 01, 2017 02:30PM



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