October 05, 2017 05:32AM
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zannon
Baer and I were not exactly friendly, I never once played one of her followers and I hated a lot of her followers and had more than a few of my own personal issues with her as an Imm.
That doesn't mean I can't see an upside to what she brought to CF for other players. If she pissed in my cheerios, so what? While Baer may not have enhanced my CF times, that doesn't make her bad in my eyes. I'm sorry that you feel one instance, or even 10-50 or however many times you want to claim she broke the lore of the game as a game master was so awful, while completely ignoring say the 50000 times she didn't and enhanced another player's CF experience.
Yeah, unfortunately I don't log. So my deflection about "not wanting to go through old logs" was a big of a lie since I don't have old logs to go through in the first place. From my perspective there was more bad than good, but I'm obviously only one person. Maybe she did enough mud sex to make all the nerds feel super good about themselves in real life. I can't say for sure one way or the other.
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zannon
If we're all judged by our worst moments, then yes Baer was pure shit. But so are you and it would probably be better for all of CF if you were left perma banned and kept away from anything related to CF. But I'd say that's the completely wrong approach, and that as a whole you're good for CF, just as 95% of players are, even if they have the occasional off moment. If you hold Imms to a higher bar than you hold yourself, oh well.
I am indeed still perma banned. The problem isn't what I did though, it's what someone else did. Turns out the newbie we had invited was disenfranchised immediately by the shut down of our little group. He prayed nasty things that I didn't know he was praying. Personal, vulgar attacks of which I would ban myself if I were making them. I would not have continued on that night of glorious fun had I known he was doing it either. I don't talk to the guy anymore because of it.
That said, I do hold immortals to a higher bar than I hold myself and my PC peers. They are the admin and game masters. They have much more influence and in most cases (not Baer's) that influence was earned. That alone is enough, but also as game masters they are leaders of the community. Leaders can and should always be held to a higher standard than their group.
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zannon
When I started on QHCF years ago I realized the futility of posting in response to you as you're generally unwilling or unable to be swayed on anything. Doesn't mean it's not fun to have a few posts back and forth though, as you generally won't devolve a thread into incessant shit talking and insults which is rather commendable on these boards. I wouldn't dismiss anything you provided, and I'm more than willing to admit when I'm wrong. Opinions are neither right nor wrong though, and you've failed to provide enough of a basis to sway mine on this. So your condemnation of Baer means as much to me as my support of Baer means to you.
Was fun to revisit QHCF, but it's probably back to another few months away. Hopefully you're still around the next time I visit these pages. I do enjoy the conversations.
Thanks, same back to you, and see you in a couple months.
Only point you're wrong about is opinions. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion as long as it agrees with mine. My opinion is always right.
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