I am kind of mixed on how hard it should be to get into Battle. On the one hand (and I think I stole this from someone else in the forums), as a player I want to have fun and I want my fellow players to have fun. So if that means a quick and easy process to get into cabals so be it. Roll up, hit the interview hard, and get in. Whoever was posting was talking about logging in and hitting people with the funstick. I like the philosophy and if I have leader characters I will use it.

The other side of the coin is that some cabals should still be certain ways. I have always thought that Empire should be the easiest to get in and the easiest to get kicked out. Because I think their powers are stupid OP and because of the whole ideology behind villagers being elite, I thought it should be one of the hardest to get into (on par at least with Scarab). I don't think that the mage related quest is that terrible, but I also think that Meleck was a pledge until he heroed and he could not get in. When Meleck quit that character I wasn't surprised. So really, how do you balance it? If the goal is to make the cabal a little harder than the others to get into but a little easier than it has been then what do you think is a good idea?

Is it really that hard to get a mage kill by mid 20s? I am not being sarcastic, I just don't know. I am a serial mage player and almost never play battle because of my strong negative feelings about the cabal. So if it's really that hard because of low numbers what is a reasonable thing to do to prove how elite you are? I still think that for battle there should be 1. some kind of proof you are an elite warrior and 2. a slightly harder process to get in.

I would be comfortable if it were any kill of an enemy. I think that of the idea is to prove you are an elite warrior bringing the scalp of another warrior (especially one who is higher rank) would be good proof. This does mean that we would see an uptick in the old "Hey let's rank - oh! I bashed you to death" traps because other warriors NEVER suspect that....
Debate away friends.