I remember when they would destroy ANY magic item they find even on non-mages for its offense at being in this world. Also, just look at Challens old log of challenges to the circles, refusing the circle just makes you a weak bitch per rager style. This whole thing seems silly to me. Personally, I always hid magic items when I hung with ragers because it made RP sense not to be sitting here flaunting the use of magic in front of them. I also feel like ragers should be free to attack anyone they see with magic gear, magic potions, etc. Same with marans attacks neutrals who are fighting goodies mobs or using evil equipment. I mean, RP and all that. Games gone a lot of the way into pansy mode in a weird way where we are all peaceful and nice in the name of RP but then going against the very nature of that RP to be this way. It's all so strange to me.