A decently prepared thief can negate detect hidden.

December 30, 2007 02:00PM
A decently prepared thief can also park it in a city until he's ready and then duck out in a direction the duergar doesn't expect, double back and attack, or blackjack and gank him anyway right in front of the tribs with a horde of maran without even binding him.

Ravon isn't in Empire, he's in Scion and afaik all the duergar in Scion deleted. If a Fortress binder or two popped up, a Scion assassin or a couple duergar would be rolled.

Honestly, detect hidden just makes things harder, not impossible. It's the same with skills, bindings and blackjack failing.

But anyway I'm only rambling and applying the rules of Entropy Lich to Ravon.

Duergar don't scare my thug thieves anymore since they nerfed axe and mace.
Subject Author Posted

Ravon is online for too long - hero playerbase goes from 15 to 2 - suddenly newbie academy packed - constructive solution?

gotki December 29, 2007 05:32PM

Ravon is totally killable and does not need at thief

cfplayer December 30, 2007 06:25PM

Orb of travel always works. That is the point of the item. nt

Drokk January 01, 2008 09:43AM

Balance lash edge + electric control stack? n/t

xenoroyal December 29, 2007 10:03PM

Binder thief for the win right? n/t

Pro December 29, 2007 07:58PM

Won't work for a very obvious reason~

torak December 29, 2007 11:17PM

There's more than one reason as well

Zoder December 30, 2007 01:22PM

Re: Won't work for a very obvious reason~

Graham December 30, 2007 01:14AM

Ravon wont login and travel alone on eastern when binder is around? nt

dervish December 30, 2007 04:18AM

Then be gay about it. Engineer a situation where RP forces him to come. nt

Isildur(VIP) December 30, 2007 12:16PM

soulbind edge makes unholies no_drop, can't steal it nt

pintose December 30, 2007 12:17PM

Then combine binder + gank.

Scrimbul December 30, 2007 01:51PM

Because empire is littered with duergar?

ExPaladin(VIP) December 30, 2007 01:54PM

A decently prepared thief can negate detect hidden.

Scrimbul December 30, 2007 02:00PM

Also, cry is one of the most underused cabal powers

ExPaladin(VIP) December 30, 2007 02:16PM

You can do that?!?! n/t

Death_Claw December 30, 2007 04:58PM

If the person attacking is in pk, yes.~

ExPaladin(VIP) December 31, 2007 02:28AM

Wow. That's wrongsauce. nt

Isildur(VIP) December 31, 2007 07:57PM

Re: Also, cry is one of the most underused cabal powers

Balrahd(VIP) December 30, 2007 04:42PM

What do you mean? n/t

Pro December 30, 2007 05:50PM

I did not know you could cry to the watcher until I saw Lyriana do it.

Balrahd(VIP) December 30, 2007 07:27PM

What do you mean cry to the watcher?

Pro December 31, 2007 12:36PM

Was wondering the same

Rodriguez January 01, 2008 03:54AM

That's cool. I think I will roll a fortress next. nt

Drokk December 31, 2007 04:32AM

MASSIVE GANG. nt

Isildur(VIP) December 29, 2007 07:49PM

Two people and some luck. I don't have the patience for it though. nt

Drokk December 30, 2007 02:22AM

That is, I don't blame any others for not having it either. nt

Drokk December 30, 2007 02:23AM

Re: It's like he's the NE Patriots. n/t

shawnh80 December 29, 2007 06:48PM



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