A theory on why ranking is more difficult.

February 02, 2008 06:29AM
Let's set the playerbase argument aside for a second.

I propose that the reason that people have more problems ranking is that rangers make up a far larger percentage of the characters logged in at any given time than anytime in the past.

Everyone that is not a ranger knows or assumes that it's not worth being a ranger if you're not Outlander. There are also assumptions about alignment that come into play with every other character.

Couple this with the fact that any ranger worth their salt that isn't hunting or being hunted is only visible half the time and no one is in the mood to ask these guys to rank. Depending on race there's a possibility they can't tank at all till 35, especially as they get closer to 35 but just start to plain slow a group down despite herbs. They also can only rank in the wilderness. As far as I know the only two wilderness areas people go to to rank regardless of class is Arendyl and Battlefield... and only morons or those trying to bait rangers to bash/fog/blind for racking up kills rank in Arendyl with a loaded PK range.

These are my thoughts as to why it's even harder to rank as a non-muter mage class or non-bard/assassin rogue.

Don't forget that half of the shifters are not suited to the type of group you're trying to put together, a shifter needs to be the first or second member of your group to decide how things go (i.e. they have the offense/defense focii) so that tends to make it less convenient for that class as well, people pass up asking a viable shifter because the focus isn't tattooed on their arm.

Of course, ranking is always difficult and rare if you aren't the player/character type to take the initiative and start asking people yourself, and I am this kind of leveller. But I would bet a large percentage of rangers are ranking easy and other folks as a whole find ranking slower than it was, especially since the imms are intentionally trying to dump both alignment level ranges into the wilds for the most efficient ranking at certain level ranges specifically so rangers can get kills. In short, I think the rangers are cramping the MUD's style in some ways and these are my theories why it's true for ranking in addition to the cookie-cutter prejudiced rangers that you're safer to assume is an Outlander looking to bag a body count.

edit: Another strike against rangers causing the levelling problem on CF, someone pointed out to me that rangers are very self efficient compared to any warrior build. This means a group of 2-3 rangers either is close to, or actually is more effective than the healer-warrior-muter or healer/muter-warrior/paladin-invoker/anti-paladin combo, and rangers are easy to solo rank in many cases than any other class (even as an animist, spam ambush every tick)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/02/2008 06:41AM by scrimbul.
Subject Author Posted

A theory on why ranking is more difficult.

Scrimbul February 02, 2008 06:29AM

Re: A theory on why ranking is more difficult.

Atavios February 03, 2008 04:26PM

Here's a list for you.

Scrimbul February 03, 2008 05:44PM

Wow. This theory is completely out of left field. Very creative.

Balrahd(VIP) February 02, 2008 09:03PM

The blame doesn't rest solely with rangers...

Scrimbul February 03, 2008 05:05AM

I agree.

Cerunnir(VIP) February 03, 2008 01:50AM

I'm an avid ranger player, but I haven't seen as many as I have been lately..

baekthestorm February 02, 2008 09:14PM

It doesn't help that people obsess over having a third.

Pro February 02, 2008 10:13AM

Maybe they ask that because they don't want to be stuck just you and them.

Sam February 03, 2008 07:04PM

Ditching me as a group mate is kinda stoopid.

Pro February 04, 2008 05:27PM

I disagree, but c'est la vie. NT

Sam February 04, 2008 07:36PM

Just lie when you answer.

ExPaladin(VIP) February 03, 2008 02:46AM

I've fallen for that one way too many times :( NT

Sam February 03, 2008 07:03PM

You don't check up with the supposed third?

Pro February 03, 2008 04:01AM

I ask that for four reasons

ExPaladin(VIP) February 03, 2008 02:44AM

Re: I ask that for four reasons

Death_Claw February 03, 2008 09:31AM

Wait, you want to avoid PK'ing people?

_Magus_ February 03, 2008 11:53AM

Even I'm above using grouping as a means of getting pk's. n/t

Death_Claw February 03, 2008 12:14PM

my reason #5: txt

Isildur(VIP) February 03, 2008 05:00AM

You'd have to be a noob

Pro February 03, 2008 04:00AM

You want to know why I really want a third in my groups?

Krilcov February 02, 2008 09:33PM

Just a reminder, your Pro privileges were cut off.

Pro February 03, 2008 04:06AM

I somewhat agree

DurNominator(VIP) February 02, 2008 09:11PM

This is the root of my frustration here.

Pro February 03, 2008 04:04AM

Does your stupidity ever end?

Krilcov February 02, 2008 10:56AM

You are simply not cut out

Pro February 02, 2008 07:09PM

Obviously reading comprehesion isn't your strong point.

Krilcov February 02, 2008 07:31PM

Don't be silly...

vortex_magus February 02, 2008 10:39AM

a level one elf is 134 years old. at some point a 134 year old being is going to realize that deurgars are inherently evil.~

Inquisitor February 02, 2008 10:50AM

My point still stands...

vortex_magus February 02, 2008 12:51PM

My point stands...

Pro February 02, 2008 07:07PM

Nobody ever said this. Read the helpfiles on groups. You get more experience with three players in your group. In case you were unaware. Which is sure seems like you were. ~

Krilcov February 02, 2008 07:35PM

Two people get more exp than zero people.

Graham February 02, 2008 11:55PM

I'm just saying I think Pro overreacts.

Krilcov February 03, 2008 06:38AM

Actually, it's more often just the oposite.

Pro February 03, 2008 11:07AM

I have to agree.

Rodriguez February 04, 2008 10:45AM

Bottom line: 2 person ranking often isn't worth it

slimfast February 04, 2008 01:39PM

And thus you contribute to your own problem.

Pro February 04, 2008 05:29PM

Not really. Not everyone's too thrilled about ranking anyway.

Krilcov February 04, 2008 05:45PM

Seriously, I'm only 21 and I know better than to give a black person a ride. n/t

xenoroyal February 02, 2008 11:32AM

Even a 12 year old could figure that one out. ~

Krilcov February 02, 2008 12:25PM

Go to your control centre and change the name setting. nt

Yhorian(VIP) February 02, 2008 10:49AM

I've not found that hard, up to a point. txt

Isildur(VIP) February 02, 2008 08:03AM

I find ranking with some ranger builds unnecessarily hard from 30-35. Especially savages. nt

Scrimbul February 02, 2008 09:12AM

You're just a damage machine. txt

Isildur(VIP) February 02, 2008 01:03PM

Gah, getting to the crystal island is a huge pain in the ass...

_Magus_ February 03, 2008 02:18PM

Re: Gah, getting to the crystal island is a huge pain in the ass...

Isildur(VIP) February 03, 2008 06:25PM

I think most rangers would be happy to rank in civilized...

morocco February 02, 2008 07:31AM

As long as your wilderness time stays 85% or higher

Derexal February 02, 2008 04:10PM

I wouldn't rank in civilized. That would be retarded.

Pro February 02, 2008 10:14AM

Re: I think most rangers would be happy to rank in civilized...

shamanman February 02, 2008 07:51AM

This is not entirely true last I tried it.

Scrimbul February 02, 2008 08:55AM

I think like an hour of ranking and you would lose fast camo. ~

ORB February 02, 2008 07:56AM

No, not really. I've ranked rangers out of the wilds for 2-3 hours in some sessions. Noticed no real difference. ~

Krilcov February 02, 2008 08:19AM

wrong and wrong. ~

morocco February 02, 2008 08:03AM

He may not be wrong.

Pro February 02, 2008 10:16AM

After playing a SHITLOAD of rangers I'm with pro/shamanman

Rogue February 02, 2008 12:34PM

What math?

morocco February 02, 2008 02:09PM

Then your ranger isn't at the highest levels of Wild-time

Pro February 02, 2008 07:15PM

Well then this kind of clinches my argument if people are going to believe it.

Scrimbul February 02, 2008 01:42PM

This isn't an argument, its bitching about rangers. I'm done n/t

morocco February 02, 2008 02:27PM

You guys are saying wilderness vs. civilized is 2:1 or 3:1. It's not true. It's 1:1 or closer to, since it's percentage of total time. 40 hours in the wilderness means 2 in civvie won't hurt you. nt

Scrimbul February 02, 2008 10:29AM

Not true.

Pro February 02, 2008 07:16PM

I've not had any trouble ranking.

Cerunnir(VIP) February 02, 2008 07:28AM

I have more problems with assassins.

Krilcov February 02, 2008 07:17AM

It might be an issue for some people...

Death_Claw February 02, 2008 06:55AM

I think you are right nt

tinymage February 02, 2008 06:35AM



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