It's more complicated than PK stats will reveal.

October 11, 2009 09:58PM
I don't want to go off on some crazy tangeant, but ...

Warriors have high PK counts because they have more kill sealing ability (for example, bash/trip/entwine/lash/etc.). And you'll also notice that the vast majority of Warriors' PKs tend to be other Warriors. This is because Warriors generally have less GTFO options against kill sealing abilities.

Nonetheless, if you look at PK stats, you'll see that mages generally kill way more Warriors than the other way around. You could say this shows the steamrolling in action. But on the other hand, even that information is suspect because PK stats don't separate between pre-hero PKs (read: pre-barrier) and post-hero PKs (read: post-barrier).

I'm not entirely convince PK stats will tell you much about ABS mages vs. melee.

As for wanting to beat up 2 berserker ragers at once, that's kind of my point.
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Sleeks...

shane October 11, 2009 08:49AM

Why are sleeks so sought after?

pendragon_surtr October 11, 2009 08:22PM

The thing about non-sleek wands

_Magus_ October 11, 2009 09:45PM

In most cases it respawns within 24 ticks. Like a sleek. ntnt

crafteddeception October 12, 2009 07:39AM

Longer duration, more charges, always in~

torak October 11, 2009 08:35PM

The problem as far as I see it

NbM October 11, 2009 03:56PM

YEY! 101st location checked and amber found! 2 wands! Yey! (110hours played) n/t

deriveh October 11, 2009 01:43PM

not to be a dick... because I havent played in a while and dont know... but...

GreenLantern October 14, 2009 12:47PM

i'm going to play a mage next, and post my hour count each time i find a sleek. nt

Isildur(VIP) October 11, 2009 03:52PM

Just found my char's first tonight..

bell October 11, 2009 07:13PM

more info on what i'm going to do: txt

Isildur(VIP) October 12, 2009 02:00PM

This has been suggested 10-15 times from what I can remember. Imms say NO. n/t

deriveh October 11, 2009 12:07PM

Would you say the mage classes are unplayable without ABS? nt

Nian October 11, 2009 10:18AM

They will be boring as hell without it. n/t

dervish October 11, 2009 10:22AM

A theoretical exercise ...

Nian October 11, 2009 10:29AM

Re: A theoretical exercise ...

Isildur(VIP) October 12, 2009 06:37AM

Quaff lag and zap lag are vastly different. Who is more screwed caught by suprise? ntnt

crafteddeception October 12, 2009 07:46AM

Re: Quaff lag and zap lag are vastly different. Who is more screwed caught by suprise? ntnt

Isildur(VIP) October 12, 2009 08:03AM

IMO it's 50/50 if both are only using their inherent dam redux.

Balrahd(VIP) October 11, 2009 10:07PM

the mage is charred bread. n/t

vortex_magus October 11, 2009 05:28PM

The mage is toast. nt.

Jib October 11, 2009 10:52AM

Eh. That depends entirely on what warrior, and what kind of mage. nt

Java October 11, 2009 11:09AM

The mage is toast if the warrior is dagger spec or the mage is anything but transmuter or evil conjurer. nt

Scrimbul October 11, 2009 11:15AM

Transmuter will be toast as well. Period. (n/t)

dervish October 11, 2009 07:13PM

Okay.. but replace transmuter with lich or charged-up AP.

Jib October 11, 2009 11:40AM

Gee... you mean they'd have to use tactics to win? How awful. (n/t)

randomthinker October 11, 2009 11:42AM

I think we're talking about a different discussion. n/t.

Jib October 11, 2009 07:21PM

Hit and run is part of the game

Nian October 11, 2009 11:42AM

So... you agree completely with what I said? nt

Java October 11, 2009 11:21AM

I wasn't disagreeing. Who do you think I am, Graatch? nt

Scrimbul October 11, 2009 11:49AM

So the conclusion you both seem to make

Nian October 11, 2009 12:01PM

Because people who complain about Aura and Barrier wands aren't looking to just be "competitive" 1 v 1.

Balrahd(VIP) October 11, 2009 03:48PM

bullshit.

Cosimo October 11, 2009 08:37PM

It's more complicated than PK stats will reveal.

Balrahd(VIP) October 11, 2009 09:58PM

Re: It's more complicated than PK stats will reveal.

Cosimo October 12, 2009 10:52PM

You just said exactly what I've been thinking while reading all the shit people have been talking about. ~

_Magus_ October 11, 2009 04:07PM

Because all that goes out the window as soon as the warrior hits 50 damroll usually. nt

Scrimbul October 11, 2009 02:22PM

About as boring as it is to fight them when they have it? nt

Java October 11, 2009 10:23AM

I like Zulg's idea:

TheBard October 11, 2009 09:19AM

Mages? Unbalanced? OH NOES!!! All you mage players cant quit bitching, and try out an orc -text-

Stevers October 11, 2009 04:30PM

I proposed this idea on the original thread and it was met with crickets :( NT

KennyPowers October 11, 2009 12:14PM

If your feeling brave:

TheBard October 11, 2009 12:56PM

I like that idea too

NbM October 11, 2009 09:58AM

Definitely agree with this.

istirith October 11, 2009 11:42AM

Imms don't want sleeks to be EASY to find. That's the entire disconnect. nt

Java October 11, 2009 08:54AM

Re: Imms don't want sleeks to be EASY to find. That's the entire disconnect. nt

stlucian2debone October 11, 2009 09:04AM

Breaking it worse isn't the answer. Cme up with a GOOD idea, and they'll listen. nt

Java October 11, 2009 09:25AM

And they're right. n/t

alansmithee October 11, 2009 09:04AM



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