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October 23, 2012 12:31PM
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What would it take to make Tribunal not suck?

laearrist October 23, 2012 11:43AM

I have enjoyed every tribunal I have run, since they were arbiters (n/t)

Zheeser October 26, 2012 11:22AM

WOULD SOMEONE PUT IN THE WORK AND MAKE A VINDICATOR ALREADY AND SHUT THESE FOOLS UP (n/t)

Frosty October 25, 2012 09:12AM

heh I consistently put over 400 hours into Trib chars

wishore October 25, 2012 11:08AM

Sorry Immteraction from Marcatis (n/t)

wishore October 25, 2012 01:35PM

How much work do you anticipate?

laearrist October 25, 2012 10:44AM

a more visibly involved imm, same as outlander

Quas October 25, 2012 02:11AM

I've said it once, I'll say it again

HairyOrangutan October 24, 2012 04:09AM

Most tribs would prefer stronger guildguards to hide behind rather than more conflict, imo. (n/t)

bell October 24, 2012 03:16PM

tribs don't need anything power wise, they certainly have the upper hand in the trib/outlander conflict

Quas October 25, 2012 04:42AM

I disagree.

Kez October 25, 2012 11:30PM

Refresh is op (n/t)

Quas October 26, 2012 02:01AM

It's not that useful when retreating

daurwyn(VIP) October 26, 2012 03:11AM

And if you beat them up you don't need to retreat (n/t)

Quas October 26, 2012 02:02AM

Indeed. I think insects is wildly OP and doesnt get enough press. (n/t)

Artificial October 26, 2012 12:47AM

Except for provost/vindicator all the powers are purely defensive. Tribunal needs less defense and more offense.

semi_newbie October 25, 2012 08:56AM

Not convinced

daurwyn(VIP) October 25, 2012 10:37PM

nah. it's just not worth a fight where at any point the outlander can

The Forsaken(VIP) October 24, 2012 05:37PM

Or sit one step outside the Spire and be safe, as someone previously mentioned. (n/t)

Kez October 25, 2012 04:14AM

I brought that up to the imms - silliness to 'war' yet allow the enemy safety in your city. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) October 25, 2012 04:57AM

the tribs are like cops

Quas October 25, 2012 05:32AM

Re: wanted status

Quixotic October 25, 2012 06:36AM

there is a lot of times where they aren't wanted.

tesline October 25, 2012 05:55AM

How many outlanders have you played?

zoskia October 25, 2012 07:13AM

I've seen it a lot

daurwyn(VIP) October 26, 2012 03:06AM

I'm more of a serial tribunal player.

tesline October 25, 2012 07:45AM

That likely has less to do with being wanted then sheer numbers

Quas October 25, 2012 07:52AM

Autosneak makes life easier

daurwyn(VIP) October 26, 2012 03:08AM

i'm talking about when trib has the fetish nt

The Forsaken(VIP) October 25, 2012 05:35AM

If cops arrested "the boss" they wouldn't disallow gang members from the public space around the jail (n/t)

Quas October 25, 2012 07:24AM

Give them a new power called 'Tribunal corden' where they can make an area of town really difficult to move into or out of when they have fetish etc (n/t)

abernyte October 25, 2012 12:42PM

or at least a way to see through chameleon. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) October 24, 2012 08:56AM

(WANTED) are always visible to Tribunals? (n/t)

Kez October 24, 2012 04:44PM

No, they can only see hidden/invis while in town which does nto mean improved invis (n/t)

Zheeser October 24, 2012 05:39PM

No I meant it as an idea.

Kez October 24, 2012 06:06PM

The better pk ers shouldn't need it

daurwyn(VIP) October 25, 2012 01:53AM

More warriors with maelstrom/one with shadows (n/t)

Baroness October 24, 2012 03:58AM

Does One with Shadows trigger purely because the target is concealed or does it have to be ambush/blackjack and the like? (n/t)

Scrimbul October 24, 2012 05:59AM

I recall a thing or two about it

Baroness October 24, 2012 06:58AM

Wis based, negates attack, plus unblockable counter (n/t)

starbright October 24, 2012 07:57AM

Making svirf or minotaur the best candidates for kicking ass with it? (n/t)

Baroness October 24, 2012 09:35AM

Does it counter the ambush or you still get hit and just get a free attack? (n/t)

ORB October 24, 2012 07:00AM

Just an idea. Would Outlander camo suffer...

Kez October 24, 2012 02:57AM

Huh. Since you'd usually just have your gear located anyway... not a bad idea. (n/t)

The_Joker October 24, 2012 08:33AM

I like this idea. And I enjoy Outlanders...

laearrist October 24, 2012 04:18AM

It has some advantages to the outlander too

daurwyn(VIP) October 26, 2012 03:16AM

Tribunal just needs another imm, preferably one known for being involved.

Jiijjustan October 23, 2012 05:51PM

Some kind of rework would draw this type of involvement.

Scrimbul October 23, 2012 06:27PM

If this happens, Maran will have to be beefed

starbright October 24, 2012 08:04AM

totally! i refuse to play Maran because of Fortress. nt

The Forsaken(VIP) October 24, 2012 09:01AM

I agree with you that it would be awesome to turn Maran into Scion-Good. That is why I suggested sticking Acolyte in Tribunal and giving it an orderly bent. (n/t)

Scrimbul October 24, 2012 08:14AM

Moving acolytes to tribunal would be an immense nerf to maran, who are already one of the weakest cabal skillsets in the game.

vortexmagus October 24, 2012 07:06AM

Don't forget that it's an insta-nerf to the Tribunal/Empire bandwagon and the Fortlander bandwagon. (n/t)

Scrimbul October 24, 2012 08:15AM

A VERY good post. Not that I agree with everything. But it's very good! Post this on gameplay on officials! :) (n/t)

deriveh October 23, 2012 08:50PM

Done. I very seriously doubt it will have any long term effect, and many of the points presented are opinion.

Scrimbul October 23, 2012 11:59PM

My Take

NiceGuy October 23, 2012 05:46PM

Main problem IMO is...

Kez October 23, 2012 04:17PM

Tribunal and Outlander have the same problem when raiding against each other.

DurNominator(VIP) October 23, 2012 08:03PM

Don't agree

daurwyn(VIP) October 23, 2012 10:07PM

How many defenders were there when you took the scales?

DurNominator(VIP) October 23, 2012 10:49PM

Re: How many defenders were there when you took the scales?

daurwyn(VIP) October 25, 2012 01:56AM

Incorrect. Outlanders have an edge.

crafteddeception October 23, 2012 08:33PM

Question about vulnerable to other factions

hopelessdwarf October 23, 2012 08:55PM

Try playing an Evil outlander with no cabal powers

crafteddeception October 24, 2012 06:12AM

Just do what every other Outlander does: log off. (n/t)

Kez October 24, 2012 04:06PM

Sounds like easy street compared to duerg villager. (n/t)

alansmithee October 24, 2012 07:02AM

Maybe. Ive never tried. But having the option to sit at the Big D

crafteddeception October 24, 2012 07:24AM

Empire is also a defined enemy of Outlander (n/t)

DurNominator(VIP) October 23, 2012 09:37PM

First of all, get rid of the freaking rangers already (n/t)

Zheeser October 23, 2012 03:58PM

I posted ideas about this long ago

Mek October 23, 2012 03:00PM

This biggest problem I see with this, though

Stevers October 23, 2012 08:02PM

My method for that is included in all the details I don't want to bother with writing here. If an Imm is interested, they can contact me. -nt-

Mek October 24, 2012 12:22PM

Re: I posted ideas about this long ago

qurdind October 23, 2012 04:13PM

Yes. Raid. That's it exactly. I couldn't think of the word! -nt-

Mek October 23, 2012 05:31PM

So we want to become a text version of WoW? (n/t)

BlkDrgn October 24, 2012 06:34AM

Silence. -nt-

Mek October 24, 2012 12:21PM

merchants would be affected nicely with a system like this (n/t)

Zheeser October 23, 2012 04:00PM

I like this idea, but seems like a lot of work...

laearrist October 23, 2012 03:19PM

Quit lurking and IMM again, please. (n/t)

Demtok October 23, 2012 03:18PM

Get rid of Trib and put the Imperials in charge of the cities. (n/t)

igsoeh October 23, 2012 02:38PM

That would be awesome. It could be a new age. (n/t)

The_Joker October 24, 2012 09:02AM

Re: That would be awesome. It could be a new age.

Artificial October 24, 2012 10:31AM

Create a two-tier system

hopelessdwarf October 23, 2012 01:25PM

What we need is a 5 point plan

Demtok October 23, 2012 02:10PM

9-9-9! (n/t)

satchmo October 23, 2012 04:43PM

You forgot sticking it to the Sultan for falsifying his economic data from the seaport (n/t)

hopelessdwarf October 23, 2012 03:34PM

Let Evils back in! (n/t)

Demtok October 23, 2012 01:17PM

since when can evils not join? I had an evil tribunal a year ago... (n/t)

satchmo October 23, 2012 01:44PM

Maybe you were the last one a year ago. (n/t)

Demtok October 23, 2012 01:52PM

huh...it might have been 2 years. Anyway, that sucks. Law is law, alignment shouldn't matter.

satchmo October 23, 2012 04:45PM

Evil can still be in Tribunal. Just harder to get in. (n/t)

Matrik October 23, 2012 07:40PM

Re: What would it take to make Tribunal not suck?

ibuki October 23, 2012 12:54PM

I agree with everything here. (n/t)

Artificial October 23, 2012 01:05PM

I think its just the nature of tribunal or arbiter.

ghuljun_thul October 23, 2012 12:27PM

man, I hated those guys. Shit, time to go kill tribunals. (n/t)

satchmo October 23, 2012 01:45PM

Powers that worked outside of cities?

ORB October 23, 2012 12:04PM

Already exists. (n/t)

Frosty October 23, 2012 12:31PM

I mean for everyone not just 2-3 people in cabal (n/t)

ORB October 23, 2012 06:06PM



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