Re: Did you just say flourintine is worse than shield block?

May 30, 2013 04:28PM
Its hard to tell, really. I typically found that shield block became fairly inconsequential against anyone with Enhanced Reactions, whereas you'll parry for days with flourintine.

This MAY be a result of some martial-classes-defend-better thing, but who knows really.
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warrior defence and weapon choice questions

Dano May 30, 2013 11:38AM

After reading through the thread...

jklua May 31, 2013 12:37PM

A thief doesn't get defensive spin, I don't think

daurwyn(VIP) May 31, 2013 04:28PM

Everyone with the spin skill gets defensive spin to some degree.

jalim May 31, 2013 04:49PM

Re: Offense (dual wield) vs Defense (single wield)

Quixotic May 31, 2013 02:03PM

If thief plans on tanking, he should always take shield block.

vortexmagus May 31, 2013 02:01PM

Agreed, re mobs

daurwyn(VIP) May 31, 2013 04:29PM

I had the exact same questions three years ago. A suggestion is describing what you exactly want to do? PvP but like to do some explorations too? PvE but able to survive and flee in unwanted PvP?

xrus May 30, 2013 01:08PM

Are you looking for PvE or PK? Or both? (n/t)

wrathpuppet May 30, 2013 01:01PM

Spear/staff is generally better if your goal is to deflect damage, in any situation.

vortexmagus May 30, 2013 12:09PM

Re: Spear/staff is generally better if your goal is to deflect damage, in any situation.

Dano May 31, 2013 06:33AM

Did you just say flourintine is worse than shield block?

PaulO May 30, 2013 12:43PM

Re: Did you just say flourintine is worse than shield block?

Forsooth May 30, 2013 04:28PM

I'd rank flourintine ahead of shield block

daurwyn(VIP) May 30, 2013 05:01PM

Flourintine is still two checks, no?

vortexmagus May 30, 2013 09:49PM

flourintine is dex-based as far as I know.

DurNominator(VIP) May 31, 2013 04:00AM

Shield block only based on skill in shield block

alex May 31, 2013 11:00PM

Here's the helpfile for you

DurNominator(VIP) June 01, 2013 12:35AM

yep

daurwyn(VIP) June 01, 2013 10:25AM

Yeah, it's also based on parry which uses both str and dex last I remember. (n/t)

vortexmagus May 31, 2013 10:08AM

parry is just str based, flourintine is just dex based

Quas May 31, 2013 10:40AM

No. n/t

jalim May 31, 2013 04:51PM

Why don't you explain, instead of being a jackass? (n/t)

Randomguy May 31, 2013 05:13PM

no means no what are you a rapist. n/t

jalim June 01, 2013 12:22AM

armor use skill is a factor in shield block

daurwyn(VIP) May 31, 2013 08:10AM

Re: Flourintine is still two checks, no?

Flipside Oreo May 31, 2013 03:12AM

misplaced post. nt

Flipside Oreo May 31, 2013 03:39AM

You have evidence to the contrary?

vortexmagus May 31, 2013 03:22AM

No, my point was directed to your reasoning, not to the numbers

Flipside Oreo May 31, 2013 03:41AM

Well no, it's just basic math

vortexmagus May 31, 2013 10:28AM

Really depends on the functional form in the code which specifies probability of parry/block/dodge

starbright May 31, 2013 10:39AM

Re: Really depends on the functional form in the code which specifies probability of parry/block/dodge

vortexmagus May 31, 2013 10:51AM

you did it wrong again, its flourintine + parry + dodge + dual wield vs parry + dodge + shield block

Quas May 31, 2013 10:38AM

Well if you're going that far you should be factoring in riposte and spec skills, too.

vortexmagus May 31, 2013 10:45AM

This, potentially three ten percent chances would be less than one fifty percent chance

Quas May 31, 2013 05:33AM

60% of the time it works every time. (n/t)

NbM(VIP) May 31, 2013 06:40AM

glad I'm not the only one thinking that. (n/t)

satchmo May 31, 2013 12:05PM

I've always assumed shield block is str based

Elystan May 31, 2013 02:01AM

Re: Flourintine is still two checks, no?

daurwyn(VIP) May 30, 2013 10:02PM

I tried using a stone shield to get up stone armor use once, it didn't go up once as I perfected shield block. (n/t)

ORB May 30, 2013 08:31PM

That's very unusual then

daurwyn(VIP) May 30, 2013 10:03PM

Someone should test it. (n/t)

vortexmagus May 30, 2013 01:00PM

I'd go sword

sez May 30, 2013 11:50AM



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