Did I at any point comment on the offensive abilities of Paladins, or otherwise imply that they were weak?

January 26, 2018 04:56PM
I have only discussed the relative defensive capabilities of the two classes. Avengers were chosen because they are arguably the most offensive of Paladins.

I can talk about that if you want.

Offensively, APs have dual wield and third attack. They also have bloodlust for haste/regen/AOE attacks. They can drop iceballs to suck away your mvs, lag you out with trip/bash/weapon controls. They can deafen you. They can worldbind you. They can energy drain your mana/mvs away. They can sleep you, spell you up, and cripple you with physical debuffs, and instakill you with cleave. APs have infinitely scaling unholy weapons which allow them to snowball hard.

APs are infinitely better at offense than Paladins. To imply otherwise is frankly rather stupid.

The most offensive Paladins (2H/monk) lag themselves out HARD (strikes/intensify) to deal less damage than iceball spam while dual wielding and bloodlusting.

Even when a Paladin is going full offense, they do not represent anywhere near the level of threat that APs do, and still do not have the level of damage reduction that an AP is able to easily achieve using wands and scrolls.
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Balls flying all over the mountain near Redhorn.

LogFiend 330 January 26, 2018 02:44AM

You feast deeply on the very soul of the corpse of Askhan. Didn't know corpses had souls. (n/t)

Murphy 47 January 26, 2018 03:46PM

Ugh..with the iceballs..

Navarone 195 January 26, 2018 03:16AM

Well...

Lokith 125 January 26, 2018 10:31AM

Doesnt Empire has a feature to reduce mana cost? (n/t)

scr 41 January 26, 2018 12:15PM

Only the divine sect (n/t)

Kstatida 31 January 26, 2018 01:44PM

not a difficult vuln to cover, but, you're looking at it kinda wrong

The Forsaken(VIP) 155 January 26, 2018 03:47AM

I would agree. Instead of ice ball bitching, figure out what you can do better.

Spronti 105 January 26, 2018 06:59AM

Okay, that's fine.

Navarone 138 January 26, 2018 04:04AM

Play an AP at hero. You'll get slaughtered and will then start bitching at how underpowered they are. (n/t)

PacMan 49 January 26, 2018 09:44AM

Oh yeah?

Navarone 145 January 26, 2018 09:53AM

I guess the readers can judge that one for themselves

PacMan 138 January 26, 2018 09:57AM

Why be such a douchebag to this guy?

Matrik 118 January 26, 2018 11:21AM

Wait..what was D? (n/t)

Navarone 51 January 26, 2018 10:02AM

He's gunna give you that later. ;) (n/t)

Frosty 50 January 26, 2018 10:04AM

Nice! Um, but not in the way you think. (n/t)

saagkri 32 January 26, 2018 11:08AM

<3 (n/t)

PacMan 48 January 26, 2018 10:11AM

Oh, you magnificent bastard. (n/t)

Navarone 46 January 26, 2018 10:08AM

Exactly. Not trying to harp on you navarone, I get where you're coming from. This is a REALLY good point here though.

Frosty 85 January 26, 2018 09:50AM

Because the classes are different

Quas 129 January 26, 2018 05:18AM

I'd be okay with APs losing barrier.

Forsooth 137 January 26, 2018 06:49AM

Is this your application for Retard Comment of the Year '18? (n/t)

PacMan 49 January 26, 2018 09:46AM

barrier easy to get?

ellokraine 109 January 26, 2018 08:37AM

Re: barrier easy to get?

Forsooth 117 January 26, 2018 04:12PM

You can't rely on limited items. No. (n/t)

Frosty 52 January 26, 2018 05:33PM

More ABS for me I guess. (n/t)

Forsooth 42 January 26, 2018 08:01PM

That's a huge loss. They would need to get something else to balance that.

Frosty 97 January 26, 2018 08:27AM

Some math. Avenger spec vs AP.

Forsooth 126 January 26, 2018 04:11PM

Because they have to go collect the wands, they don't get the skillspellsup. This comparison is moot, and not only for that reason. (n/t)

Frosty 36 January 26, 2018 05:31PM

Re: Some math. Avenger spec vs AP.

PacMan 103 January 26, 2018 04:17PM

Did I at any point comment on the offensive abilities of Paladins, or otherwise imply that they were weak?

Forsooth 97 January 26, 2018 04:56PM

Yeah when you put it that way APs need MAJOR nerfing and QUICKLY

PacMan 124 January 26, 2018 05:13PM

Re:

Forsooth 93 January 26, 2018 08:05PM

Got 'em (n/t)

Matrik 40 January 27, 2018 04:17AM

Alright. Now I'm curious.

Navarone 96 January 26, 2018 06:35PM

Not a lot

Kstatida 105 January 26, 2018 03:22AM

Wait...so vets dont spam iceball? (n/t)

Navarone 37 January 26, 2018 03:28AM

1st, vets don't spam

Kstatida 125 January 26, 2018 03:32AM

I beg to differ, my sassy friend.

Navarone 121 January 26, 2018 03:37AM

Re: I beg to differ, my sassy friend.

Kstatida 109 January 26, 2018 04:01AM

Well, the impressions from both sides in this thread are less than stellar. (n/t)

Navarone 47 January 26, 2018 04:06AM



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