Assassins are the dumbest thing...

March 14, 2018 01:30PM
in CF memory except for old assassinate (no stalking just % chance success) and forced-dual. Sorry if any of this isn't 100% correct. I've played assassins before, but they need toning down IMHO.

- They can hide better than thieves so they can pick their battles
- Biggest maledicts, fastest application of maledicts
- Most damaging lag move which can also maledict
- Can slow you pre-combat (darts) and during combat (kansetsuwaza, which also maledicts)
- Can break your wrist obviously (kote)
- Can stalk to cut-off fleeing
- Can stalk to assassinate

- Then trance: Haste + 50% dam redux?
- Add to that a trance edge: +400hp? or 100% weapon mastery or etc.
- Can parry with hands
- Also, backfists
- And shield block (It costs 10 thief points to get that on a thief)
- Third attack
- Oh, and tiger claw (thieves earclap sucks and you have to be a thug to take it...and it's after third attack)
- vanish (not that big of a deal, but you sure can catch someone on eastern with it)
- Healing skill
- -save v spell skill
- 1 round lag attack (nerve. So you can go right into throw, etc.)
- Best edges in the game
- Mark (big deal if you know how to use it)
- pick lock (really? They need this?)
- I know I'm missing something

Assassins were coded by someone who like to play assassins. It would be one thing is a class could conceal/heal/melee/defend/get away/track but wasn't the best at anything. But that's not our current assassins.
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LogFiend 746 March 12, 2018 07:21AM

I love it how a character with negative PK rating becomes a reason for assassins OP flame

Kstatida 350 March 14, 2018 10:51PM

It's almost as if our opinions are based on more than just the PK ratio of the person in the last assassin log we saw. (n/t)

saagkri 292 March 14, 2018 11:48PM

Not possible

Kstatida 358 March 15, 2018 12:01AM

Isn't Jhelruk a warrior?

Matrik 405 March 14, 2018 05:35AM

Assassins are the dumbest thing...

saagkri 433 March 14, 2018 01:30PM

Not to take away from anything else you've said (which i agree with)

Kez 386 March 14, 2018 08:18PM

Vanish is nice, but...

saagkri 347 March 14, 2018 11:54PM

My experience is that vanish is ok but....

Rhyaldrin 333 March 15, 2018 05:09AM

3rd place!

MiyagiYojimbo 344 March 15, 2018 05:50AM

I dunno what the success rate is

Kez 325 March 15, 2018 12:31AM

Your perception is biased

Kstatida 341 March 15, 2018 03:22AM

Maybe. All I could find in my logs was Tiiga trying to vanish in a cursed area and failing. (n/t)

saagkri 282 March 15, 2018 03:08AM

Misinfo (n/t)

Kstatida 307 March 14, 2018 10:50PM

I still contend the best solution is just to make them a limited class like minos are a limited race.

Rhyaldrin 330 March 14, 2018 03:16PM

Or a powerful mage who controls all the elements

Kstatida 341 March 14, 2018 11:12PM

Invokers are already a small percentage when compared to assassins.

Rhyaldrin 341 March 15, 2018 05:06AM

Ground controlocaust. (n/t)

saagkri 288 March 15, 2018 05:13AM

Too painful to remember.

MiyagiYojimbo 303 March 15, 2018 08:21AM

Wuxia CF. (n/t)

Murphy 297 March 14, 2018 03:21PM

Well they are ninjas and everyone knows ninjas are simply better than everyone else. Lol. (n/t)

Murphy 284 March 14, 2018 02:19PM

It's been a progression of changes...

laearrist 543 March 14, 2018 05:53AM

throw isn't 100% success rate

random 374 March 14, 2018 09:04AM

Yes. With edge throw is 100% afaik, or close enough to not matter. 80%~ without (n/t)

laearrist 393 March 14, 2018 09:37AM

I am the throw master and I can tell you it's not 100%.

Rhyaldrin 380 March 14, 2018 11:58AM

Interesting. Thanks. Trance questions.

Matrik 372 March 14, 2018 06:15AM

If you've got some stalks on a dude, trance also gives STSF cutoff amongst other things. (n/t)

PacMan 323 March 14, 2018 12:29PM

I'm not an expert, but I'll take a stab and someone else can correct me...

laearrist 473 March 14, 2018 06:27AM

correct, but i think it is 6 hours every 24.

The Forsaken(VIP) 372 March 14, 2018 07:38AM

If you get the drop on one...

Brujah 434 March 14, 2018 04:30PM

Yes, and still hasn't been changed. Every bandwagon member of CF has an assassin right now. Such variety in the game. Most of our lifers share the same mind. Hey, you play a felar, I'll play a human. That'll shut him up. (n/t)

funnyone 298 March 14, 2018 03:37AM

Thank you, GreatOne, for acknowledging I am not a bandwagon member. You are too kind. You're. ;) (n/t)

Frosty 288 March 15, 2018 07:31AM

I see you have your notepad with you (n/t)

Kstatida 293 March 14, 2018 03:50AM

Goddamn those are some nasty ground controls (n/t)

mcbeth 313 March 12, 2018 08:22AM



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