If you think ragers are least gear dependent...

April 19, 2018 09:57AM
...you are sorely mistaken. Maybe you were being imprecise and meant least prep dependent, in which case you are correct. But actual equ? Ragers are perhaps the most reliant. They have nothing else beyond their cabal powers and their equ. They can't use preps. They can't get a friend to sanc, or shield, or haste, or anything else whatsoever.

And note you are classifying by cabal, not by class or race. I defy you to support an argument that says ragers are less equ dependent than fortress, or tribunal, or empire, or scarab.

All of which is aside the point that you really aren't getting this whole situation, and are arguing quite strenuously about something to which you claim to have no connection. It's really quite simple.

1 - Player does X in game (we really don't know what he does as he conveniently hasn't posted the actual log of the events).

2 - Player posts a log of the consequences of X, specifically his corpse decaying and some internal cabal discussion, and subsequent interaction with a rager (who kills him).

3 - The corpse decay shows that approximately 18 items (half or perhaps more than half of total items) were returned, including more than half of his wearable items.

4 - Despite this fact as shown in his log, player writes a comment saying "Ok, I'm fulled." This of course is factually false. More, I will go so far as to say it is figuratively inaccurate as well, as at least in my day, saying "fulled" meant actual full looting, hence the phrase "down to the pies!".

5 - Player includes further pejorative and critical statements directed toward the ragers (note we only see one in the log snippet, unclear who or what they were, or any other interactions). As a personal aside, the statement "All my gears were magical, so no use for them, weapons were enchanted too" is especially damning. First, they are ragers, all magical items have a use, thinning the veil. The log doesn't show the things you lost, but if they were of a kind with the ones that were returned to you, then many if not all of them were veil shifters, the ones that give the echo. Ragers of course would take those, or at least have good reason to do so. Second, the things you did get back were all or almost all of such potency. To say you were griefed by this is defied by the evidence. Had they wished, you would not have received the Hell items, the Dragon lair items, etc. Third and finally on this point, and again, without knowing the items that you lost, those might be items of particular power which any enemy, but especially a rager, would want to remove from enemy hands. Talisman of Ultimate Evil for example. Or the cube of force. Pearl of power. I'm sure there are newer things I don't even know about. In short, saying that because the items were magical means the ragers had no use (read: reason) to take them, is sorely mistaken.

6 - Lastly, and frankly most important overall, I suspect you'd be hard pressed to find someone who disagrees with the interpretation of this log as being an attempt to assassinate the character of the ragers. I think the most fair reading of the original post is that the player wrongly felt aggrieved, and wanted to hurt the players that "hurt" him, and did so via an ooc mechanism, namely posting here. That's both wrong, and, as it turns out, results mostly in self-inflicted condemnation by those he was attempting to persuade.

As an aside, this is what partners in law firms do while they wait for an associate to get them a revised brief on a motion to dismiss. Or at least this law firm partner. Good times.
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Welcome, great warrior.

LogFiend 993 April 18, 2018 11:01PM

A few things.

wrathpuppet 406 April 19, 2018 12:38PM

Some advice for the player of Hanraldis

Dalbrin 468 April 19, 2018 09:56AM

Wow. What a crybaby

K-B 413 April 19, 2018 09:29AM

:)

Frosty 365 April 19, 2018 09:47AM

You brought it to the forums and now you are going to reactivate?

hug 449 April 19, 2018 06:29AM

He needs to be anathed now

Kez 388 April 19, 2018 11:18AM

Well he'd autoanath at delete

mcbeth 388 April 19, 2018 11:20AM

The second time in a row I'm reading this shit..

scr 419 April 19, 2018 06:43AM

I am talking within context of the RP/IC game

hug 382 April 19, 2018 07:07AM

Apart of the fact that nobody cares..

scr 348 April 19, 2018 07:25AM

You're not getting it.

Frosty 336 April 19, 2018 07:35AM

I got it quite clearly.

scr 358 April 19, 2018 07:48AM

Oh the sweet hypocrisy

mharldarn 299 April 27, 2018 01:38AM

Actions turn to Consequences - one would think after all these years

hug 383 April 19, 2018 08:20AM

This is really simple. Nobody wants to see the blacksmith at the renaissance fair talking on a cellphone.

Frosty 311 April 19, 2018 08:14AM

Lol I know exactly that nobody of you are..

scr 334 April 19, 2018 08:47AM

...wut? (n/t)

Frosty 300 April 19, 2018 08:51AM

Simply put he is saying that this guy is to blame for his own inability to do something.

Blackstar 428 April 19, 2018 10:33PM

BRAKU Su'TARRRR!

MiyagiYojimbo 311 April 19, 2018 11:39PM

Re: BRAKU Su'TARRRR!

Kstatida 283 April 20, 2018 12:05AM

You are spot on. Technically scr is correct in a weird way

hug 392 April 19, 2018 07:45AM

You know, this is the first place..

scr 324 April 19, 2018 08:01AM

Here's the explanation

Dalbrin 362 April 19, 2018 10:04AM

Really? This does any matter for you?

scr 277 April 19, 2018 12:21PM

Smiley face. This is the game we play.

Dalbrin 321 April 19, 2018 12:30PM

Holy shit..

scr 378 April 19, 2018 12:36PM

By all means

Dalbrin 339 April 19, 2018 12:42PM

Lol I really sorry for you..

scr 320 April 19, 2018 07:57PM

Losing composure doesn't make you a piece of shit (n/t)

Kstatida 286 April 19, 2018 12:46PM

Its because posts like have an active and destructive agenda with interpretation enclosed

hug 318 April 19, 2018 08:15AM

Re: The second time in a row I'm reading this shit..

asker 333 April 19, 2018 06:45AM

Glik might have anath'd him just because he died. (n/t)

asker 278 April 19, 2018 06:40AM

Let him do it, crack a beer, watch the show. At the very least it should be entertaining. (n/t)

Frosty 293 April 19, 2018 06:30AM

Summary and a question

asker 388 April 19, 2018 06:08AM

To be fair, wrong math

Kstatida 338 April 19, 2018 06:49AM

Re: To be fair, wrong math

asker 338 April 19, 2018 08:01AM

Overall it looks like everybody here is ready to be full looted.

scr 344 April 19, 2018 06:04AM

Hanraldis had absolute top notch gear. He should have been fulled. But he *wasn't,* you fucking mouthbreather. (n/t)

Dalbrin 353 April 19, 2018 09:58AM

I can easily eat a full loot

Kstatida 348 April 19, 2018 06:09AM

PSA: If you get a bunch of gear back and call it "nearly fulled" you'll look like a douchebag.

Frosty 297 April 19, 2018 06:00AM

You know what the problem really is?

The_Joker 411 April 19, 2018 05:56AM

Dunno about the rest but amen to the gear beggar freakout part

mcbeth 302 April 19, 2018 06:19AM

Could you put here the whole list of selective login perma-cheating guys? (n/t)

scr 303 April 19, 2018 06:00AM

Re: Welcome, great warrior.

alansmithee 421 April 19, 2018 05:25AM

I'm {accused imm} and I freely admit to {whatever you allege}. Will you please come back now? (n/t)

asker 320 April 19, 2018 05:47AM

Re: Welcome, great warrior.

Ultec 411 April 19, 2018 02:31AM

Whoops. Commented in the wrong place. (n/t)

The_Joker 293 April 19, 2018 05:55AM

That didn't look like you got fulled to me.

saagkri 383 April 19, 2018 01:22AM

Reegan was the worst. King of douches. (n/t)

Frosty 285 April 19, 2018 06:03AM

To be honest they took too much for more than equal fight.

scr 382 April 19, 2018 01:38AM

Imperial transmuter

zannon 396 April 19, 2018 05:35AM

Wtf is that? envy?

scr 311 April 19, 2018 05:55AM

If you think ragers are least gear dependent...

alansmithee 393 April 19, 2018 09:57AM

Made partner = PLENTY OF TIME NOW FOR CF. (n/t)

asker 298 April 19, 2018 10:16AM

Not at all.

zannon 341 April 19, 2018 08:27AM

Re: Not at all.

asker 363 April 19, 2018 09:10AM

That depends on what you're trying to do

Dalbrin 313 April 19, 2018 10:16AM

I wonder if anyone else feels the same way... (n/t)

Frosty 296 April 19, 2018 08:48AM

That's not envy, that's truth. Note that he's not speaking of how he feels personally but rather how many other players do. Everything he said is on point.

Frosty 320 April 19, 2018 06:16AM

Unsurprisingly, you're full of shit, as ever

Kstatida 387 April 19, 2018 06:21AM

You look like a retard every time you do this. Look at the rest of the comments. Look at other threads from other forums about hating muters.

Frosty 303 April 19, 2018 06:27AM

You said zannon isn't talking about his feelings, that's bullshit

Kstatida 323 April 19, 2018 06:34AM

FFS I forgot a "just" from my second sentence. I made a mistake. Nobody else is having issues with it, just you. Unwad your panties, Natalia. You remind me of Glen from that movie The Ringer.

Frosty 294 April 19, 2018 07:19AM

Have some respect. The name is Natasha. (n/t)

Dalbrin 352 April 19, 2018 10:19AM

So he is Boris AND Natasha?

Murphy 310 April 19, 2018 02:46PM

Update your pop culture, I'm Bullwinkle. (n/t)

Dalbrin 337 April 19, 2018 10:57PM

It's quite obvious that you're the one having issues here

Kstatida 296 April 19, 2018 10:00AM

I never said I act mature. Are you inferring you act mature?

Frosty 284 April 19, 2018 10:08AM

The sex tape between you two is going to be fucking epic. Let me know when it drops. (n/t)

Dalbrin 295 April 19, 2018 10:20AM

^^This guy gets it.

Frosty 313 April 19, 2018 10:31AM

I always get it, sexy. I just don't have a top ten PK'er or qhcf post count so no one respects me. :, ( (n/t)

Dalbrin 322 April 19, 2018 11:24AM

I've got both, and I'm in the Rodney Dangerfield club too. But you know what they say, ignorance is bliss. ;) (n/t)

Frosty 313 April 19, 2018 01:27PM

Ignorance is bliss indeed. Please, keep your gay stuff off this forum. (n/t)

Murphy 268 April 19, 2018 02:48PM

Sorry Murph, I know that's really hard for you to say.

Frosty 327 April 19, 2018 07:28PM

Thank you Boris. (n/t)

Murphy 274 April 19, 2018 10:51PM

Did you go back to your corpse or ask where the rest was?

Kez 461 April 19, 2018 12:21AM

I may have missed it but did he show what he had pre loot?

Quas 316 April 19, 2018 05:14AM

Unless you RP a whiney schmuck, asking "where your stuff is" is a no-no.

Kstatida 352 April 19, 2018 03:49AM

Asking "where is my stuff" is silly agreed, because...

BlkDrgn 361 April 19, 2018 05:47AM

preach! (n/t)

mcbeth 275 April 19, 2018 06:21AM

Good point.

saagkri 370 April 19, 2018 01:24AM

Not pissed.

Matrik 296 April 20, 2018 05:22AM



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