Going off of what you're saying...

March 31, 2008 04:11PM
And I only mention this to play devils advocate. But he did try to bash. It was working until the bard finally evaded one. And the first opportunity the bard got, he successfully sang symphonic echoes on the first try. That cuts the chances of bashing him further by at least half. So now that's out of the question, because you'll just end up lagging yourself to death.

And lets say he pincered. Pincer lags you three, and them two, if it even hits. That's enough time to sing yet another song. Let's say pincer is either distorted, misses or only hits one attack. That leaves two to three rounds of combat for you to flee and sing frightful fiend. At this point, the fight is over regardless for the giant.

Powerful fiend = dead warrior. Hell, there's only a small handful of race/class builds that can actually survive a powerful fiend.

That leaves only one (unreliable) option left: Resist mental. I'm not convinced that resist mental even does much for "low" intelligence characters.

Edited to add: All that said, if I'm a melee class, especially as a giant, the second symphonic echoes lands, I'm out of the fight. Because I know what's coming next. And symphonic echoes makes fighting a fiend way more difficult than it should be. Personally, I believe that if symphonic echoes didn't affect you while fighting an illusion, it would balance things out.



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How to kill bard with storm giant...oh wait...is it possible?:)

LogFiend 1249 March 31, 2008 07:52AM

Resist mental would've likely won you that fight. n/t

Atavios 545 March 31, 2008 06:50PM

Shame ragers can't get resist mental. n/t

alansmithee 479 March 31, 2008 07:39PM

Umm what? You cant wear armor as a rager ?!

theepic 732 April 01, 2008 07:29AM

Go ahead, name something a rager can use to get resist mental.

alansmithee 577 April 01, 2008 07:44PM

I could name four items, however

theepic 555 April 03, 2008 04:11AM

Yeah, of course. I call bullshit.

alansmithee 612 April 03, 2008 01:31PM

Yea cus your a pussy. Look below 3 items are already spoon fed AND

theepic 531 April 04, 2008 03:27AM

You're just not that smart, are you?

alansmithee 497 April 04, 2008 08:57AM

Hahah, Dude go argue your mis-info point with someone who gives a fuck. I tryed to nudge you in the right direction.

theepic 575 April 04, 2008 11:08AM

And lastly the headgear I was talking about is

theepic 448 April 04, 2008 11:16AM

Nope. you're still wrong.

alansmithee 556 April 04, 2008 01:44PM

He's better off being dumber, than an overly smug tosser that constantly peed on by imms :) nt

Yhorian(VIP) 521 April 04, 2008 10:34AM

A creature you can stick on your head. No idea if it's magic flagged n/t

Graham 621 April 02, 2008 05:27AM

It is magic flagged. n/t

alansmithee 520 April 03, 2008 01:30PM

what if it isn't an item?

daurwyn(VIP) 720 April 01, 2008 11:55PM

Not that I'm saying that there is nt

daurwyn(VIP) 556 April 01, 2008 11:57PM

Theres a cloak thats -10.. and a circlet thats -5 and.. neckware thats -10

Guy 550 April 01, 2008 08:23PM

Neckwear is non-limited too, if I remember correctly... NT

Sam 450 April 02, 2008 09:07AM

Technically that's save vs. mental, not resist mental .nt

Isildur(VIP) 648 April 01, 2008 08:38PM

If you're aiming to resist bard songs like distort and fiend, I think svm is what you want though. nt

nightshade 607 April 02, 2008 08:24AM

I think you're wrong.

alansmithee 569 April 03, 2008 01:34PM

You positive the legacy is resist, and not saves?

daurwyn(VIP) 428 April 04, 2008 01:55PM

Re: I think you're wrong.

Isildur(VIP) 558 April 03, 2008 02:52PM

Correct Alan smithee is spouting crap

Guy 559 April 03, 2008 09:54PM

Except you're wrong.

alansmithee 420 April 04, 2008 09:00AM

Re: Except you're wrong.

Isildur(VIP) 477 April 04, 2008 10:20AM

All I ever said was

alansmithee 477 April 04, 2008 01:46PM

Guy is 150% correct, and I don't normally agree with Guy.

theepic 439 April 04, 2008 03:31AM

But if you get slept

Dwoggurd 474 April 02, 2008 08:35AM

You'd think so

daurwyn(VIP) 454 April 04, 2008 01:58PM

I've had bards run out of mana trying to sing me up through my svm. :) Sleep doesn't always work. nt

Yhorian(VIP) 589 April 02, 2008 01:30PM

In addition to my other post...

nightshade 528 April 02, 2008 11:22AM

You are wrong...

alex 531 April 03, 2008 12:55AM

Fair enough. One of CFs strange inconsistencies I guess. nt

nightshade 548 April 03, 2008 04:11AM

True, but in that case resist mental probably isn't going to save you either. nt

nightshade 603 April 02, 2008 11:07AM

Disagree, there is one dubious method

Graham 576 April 01, 2008 07:09AM

They get other stuff though

daurwyn(VIP) 741 April 01, 2008 05:03AM

Its the reverse

Guy 576 April 01, 2008 12:40PM

I thought all of those were meant to be helpful?

daurwyn(VIP) 526 April 01, 2008 11:58PM

None of that is true.

theepic 597 April 01, 2008 09:00AM

The part where resist lowers fiend damage is true n/t

Kamuela 447 April 01, 2008 09:12AM

I highly doubt that, Bards kicked Broxx's(fire giant) ass with resist and thirst up. ~

ORB 452 April 01, 2008 07:19AM

I wasn't aware that he was a rager. n/t

Atavios 589 March 31, 2008 07:54PM

He's not. nt

zen 476 March 31, 2008 08:28PM

I'm not sure there's anything about this log that I like.

_Magus_ 697 March 31, 2008 10:11AM

Giant's only hope was to bash. Fiend = OP. nt

zen 551 March 31, 2008 10:37AM

Funny

jmc 652 March 31, 2008 06:22PM

But bash didn't win the fight. Grand nocturne did.

_Magus_ 477 March 31, 2008 07:54PM

Giant's only hope is ALWAYS to bash and/or pincer.

Scrimbul 645 March 31, 2008 03:36PM

Going off of what you're saying...

_Magus_ 669 March 31, 2008 04:11PM

Re: Going off of what you're saying...

Elhe 622 April 01, 2008 12:36AM

I'm not saying Bards are overpowered but come on.

Balrahd(VIP) 615 April 01, 2008 06:39AM

Re: I'm not saying Bards are overpowered but come on.

Elhe 595 April 01, 2008 02:21PM

All bards are

daurwyn(VIP) 687 April 01, 2008 12:02PM

Re: All bards are

Isildur(VIP) 635 April 01, 2008 01:07PM

I feel that is the reason Nepenthe had inflated numbers as Dyneli.

_Magus_ 658 April 01, 2008 01:20PM

Insects is a sick power. However, look at the numbers:

Drokk 642 April 02, 2008 09:33PM

Re: I feel that is the reason Nepenthe had inflated numbers as Dyneli.

Isildur(VIP) 484 April 01, 2008 04:48PM

He also had gibberish. nt

crafteddeception 469 April 01, 2008 01:48PM

And a ridiculous quest item from a area explore n/t

Guy 513 April 01, 2008 01:59PM

Just to be clear...

_Magus_ 614 April 01, 2008 05:14AM

If only minotaurs weren't so rare. Fiend immunity is overpowered. nt

Yhorian(VIP) 458 March 31, 2008 05:37PM

So kill the bard pre-38?

Scrimbul 453 March 31, 2008 05:20PM

Umm, you do realize Magus played an incredibly sick bard, right?

Sam 1300 March 31, 2008 06:40PM

It doesn't change the fact that he's severely distorting the situation.

Scrimbul 479 March 31, 2008 09:28PM

Except the stats on that char are not 'incredibly sick' nt

crafteddeception 574 March 31, 2008 07:02PM

Sorry I did not have imperial tactics or imperial training...

_Magus_ 683 March 31, 2008 07:12PM

You don't need it to be sick bard with good numbers, I've proved it with Taelina

Elhe 613 March 31, 2008 08:45PM

I just remember you beat both me and my bro's ass at our inners...

Sam 559 March 31, 2008 07:39PM

except...you didn't die. txt

Isildur(VIP) 548 March 31, 2008 08:58AM

Imperial training does >>> pwnz0rz <<< things to joo. nt

Yhorian(VIP) 556 March 31, 2008 09:42AM

No Codex=no imperial training here nt

alex 508 March 31, 2008 10:00AM

Hah. Then the giant just sucks. nt

Yhorian(VIP) 523 March 31, 2008 10:06AM



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