Yes, the counter argument is this. Why would they care about that when doing that much damage. Same crap with Jebaral, and I know that one prepares to fight, and that spam just destroys him. Good counter though. (n/t)

July 28, 2013 03:44AM
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Zamos nukes Derzz, clones eq.

LogFiend 1502 July 26, 2013 05:20AM

Ridiculous damage for a 1 round lag commune. (n/t)

Aussie1313 452 July 26, 2013 02:48PM

W store bought and class preps, I'll put money on the orc to win 3 out of 5.....

Zruulg 484 July 28, 2013 03:07PM

FYI: Derzz has no saves vs spell and like 10 Int and 10 Wis in this log. He ain't saving against anything at all. (n/t)

sevriis 433 July 27, 2013 05:27AM

It is way to much damage for a one round commune. He didnt save? Who the fuck cares. It's a rediculous commune that still hasn't been changed so the noobs love it. (n/t)

funnyone 461 July 27, 2013 09:38AM

It's not a win button though. Seems like a lot of people are starting to think that's what it is.

Frosty 465 July 27, 2013 12:52PM

It's more then that. It's the complete package a shield ded paladin is. I don't see how fun that is with a build that needs to be tinkered with. (n/t)

funnyone 443 July 27, 2013 03:17PM

Yeah I hate how they can maladict you to hell then permalag you (n/t)

valkenar 425 July 28, 2013 02:33AM

Yes, the counter argument is this. Why would they care about that when doing that much damage. Same crap with Jebaral, and I know that one prepares to fight, and that spam just destroys him. Good counter though. (n/t)

funnyone 429 July 28, 2013 03:44AM

You can leave at any point while fighting a paladin.

Death_Claw 459 July 28, 2013 04:29PM

No longer true

daurwyn(VIP) 490 July 28, 2013 10:49PM

You always could...for a staggering one round. n/t

Death_Claw 415 July 29, 2013 05:47AM

My last ap lost a medium weapon to

daurwyn(VIP) 451 July 29, 2013 12:43PM

And trip was the issue there.

Death_Claw 435 July 30, 2013 05:11AM

Trip and shield bash were both required

daurwyn(VIP) 420 August 01, 2013 03:09AM

If he was shieldbashing, he wasn't wrathing. Those three attacks per round sure are OP (n/t)

Matrik 413 August 01, 2013 06:16AM

Shield cleave.

Scrimbul 459 July 28, 2013 06:05AM

You called them the complete package. They're not. (n/t)

valkenar 424 July 28, 2013 04:23AM

Try playing one.

Death_Claw 482 July 27, 2013 06:10PM

This. This. This. (n/t)

Frosty 438 July 28, 2013 07:44AM

I take it you've never saved against wrath, because the difference is night and day when you do.

sevriis 478 July 27, 2013 10:07AM

It is deadly. Shields doing that much damage and co wra every round is BS damage save or not. Protection, stone, desen will still go great damage with everything else a shield paladin does. Is bash spec takes more skill (n/t)

funnyone 434 July 27, 2013 03:16PM

Flee is OP. Do what everyone suggests, try one. They the potential for burst damage but no lagging. Harded to seal kills than these logs look (n/t)

kanye 442 July 28, 2013 12:29PM

Why don't you play a paladin? (n/t)

Murphy 420 July 27, 2013 05:51PM

Blob? Is that you? (n/t)

Frosty 463 July 26, 2013 03:06PM

Pretty dick move to start killing someone after you know a reboot is coming. (n/t)

bell 436 July 26, 2013 12:58PM

Yeah, but how would he clone eq otherwise? :) (n/t)

Murphy 417 July 28, 2013 04:35PM

Agreed. n/t

Death_Claw 418 July 27, 2013 11:27AM

+1 (n/t)

butterfly 422 July 27, 2013 06:55AM

He needs to get those paladin edges somehow (n/t)

Elystan 435 July 27, 2013 01:40AM

Concur. (n/t)

Zruulg 434 July 26, 2013 03:57PM

Seemed to work out okay for him. (n/t)

legobelt 408 July 26, 2013 12:59PM

You stole my workaholics comment ;) (n/t)

Frosty 441 July 26, 2013 08:15AM

I'm half wondering

daurwyn(VIP) 609 July 26, 2013 07:10AM

Those DEVAS shieldjabs are nasty. Zamos probably has the +offensive communes virtue, right? Orcs aren't vuln wrath (n/t)

Dalbrin 490 July 26, 2013 12:32PM

With edges available it is fact.

Perpetual_Noob 648 July 26, 2013 07:27AM

they dont (n/t)

Quas 434 July 26, 2013 07:48AM

They don't what? Your response makes no sense to anything he posted. Please elaborate (n/t)

kanye 422 July 26, 2013 11:31AM

Out damage avengers (n/t)

Quas 412 July 26, 2013 04:21PM

Really?

Dalbrin 521 July 26, 2013 05:44PM

I guess your mileage out did mine then.

Perpetual_Noob 492 July 26, 2013 04:29PM

So speaking strictly raw damage

Quas 531 July 26, 2013 06:42PM

Shield desiccant gets one unblockable attack on everyone each round

daurwyn(VIP) 443 July 29, 2013 03:18AM

But they're so dry. (n/t)

wrathpuppet 444 July 29, 2013 03:36AM

*LAUGH* Daur got awtokourektyd! (n/t)

The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP) 424 July 30, 2013 08:15AM

One thing I've always been curious about

Dalbrin 555 July 26, 2013 07:40PM

To be really tanky they need temperance virtue.

Death_Claw 466 July 27, 2013 11:30AM

Avengers get a parry boost when using a 2 hander

Quas 486 July 27, 2013 03:31AM

Avoid is more than dodge .....

Welverin 520 July 27, 2013 04:07AM

Question then-

The Faithful of Nazmorghul(VIP) 433 July 30, 2013 08:17AM

no. ravger avoid is poor man's gentle walk (n/t)

Matrik 408 July 30, 2013 08:41AM

What kind of guard lets you flee past him? Meh. (n/t)

smashtro 426 July 26, 2013 06:02AM

Cowardly, level 25ish orc guards? (n/t)

sevriis 434 July 26, 2013 06:05AM

I'm talking more OOC mechanics than anything. Why doesn't it work like a guild guard?

smashtro 468 July 26, 2013 07:48AM

I think it is cause they can LITERALLY hide there. (n/t)

tesline 425 July 26, 2013 08:02AM

Orcs have the hide skill specifically to hide in GSV.

sevriis 489 July 26, 2013 07:55AM

Yeah, I didn't mean hide like thieves do, just seeking cover behind a meat shield.

smashtro 457 July 26, 2013 08:55AM

... Orcs have it easy to be honest. You can go find a cave on any continent and hide after a certain level.

sevriis 489 July 26, 2013 10:21AM

If I remember right there is another two sets of guards you can hide behind which ae much stronger. (n/t)

tesline 418 July 26, 2013 09:14AM

I don't know if they are "much" stronger...

Perpetual_Noob 428 July 27, 2013 02:03AM

Can't you summon from behind them? (n/t)

Murphy 423 July 27, 2013 04:26AM

If you can see hidden. Sure. But why not be friends with that duergar AP/Shaman as an orc? (n/t)

sevriis 420 July 27, 2013 04:45AM

Actually, I'm not even sure that detect hidden lets you see them there. (n/t)

Murphy 406 July 27, 2013 05:59AM

They can hide in their guild/town. (n/t)

legobelt 426 July 26, 2013 07:52AM



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