Got once too many deaths by assassins' throw skill. Saw the board's complaints about assassin, didn't realize it until I face a few and see how OP it is. What the hell happened to the assassin class? I got my arse whopped lol. I have play for many years and have never seen assassins specifically use throw and ground control for the win until recently. They don't even try to do other things now from what I see from the village assassins to the fortress assassins. Sigh, I got my butt semi-permalag by throw and ground control on my little duergar thief on the most uncomplicated battle ever; basically I input blackjack and then flee flee flee flee.... and then got thrown to death -outdamaged by the throw and ground control damage- by a fortress assassin while I have stone skin, protection versus good, flying and poppies up. Someone really farked up CF big time and it ain't me. Though thank you for the last name :D

Anyways, it was fun while it lasts, thanks for all who make it fun.

About the thug thief class:

Thieves are good for stealing.

Weapontrip sucks, if anyone want to fix the assassin class, a good fix would be to make weapon-trip for assassins and the throw and ground control skill for thieves. At least that will make up for little lagging abilities that thieves have. But who am I kidding right lol.

Weapon butt blackjack sucks, good for mobs, not good for characters. With what I can remember, I have one successful weapon blackjack on Okca and Kia each, the rest of the dozens of attempts fail nicely one after the other until I stop trying to chance it.

Empire:
Sorry Shadow Lord for the demote, no hard feeling, you are in my spot :D
Thanks for the demote Emperor :D, from what I see, the only useful skill for an imperial shadow is given as a Shadow Dweller so I really don't mind being demoted.
The rest of the Empire, you are a strong team.

Others:

A special thanks to the good village assassin who got tired of throwing me to death and let me climb the ranks, you know who you are.

Tril: Thanks for the phylactery.

Aar the KingPin: I really don't like gear lockers... and you are one. By the way, you tell the Emperor about me breaking imperial laws with no proof? Such a big sissy lol. The sad thing is the Emperor did demote me just by your words, which like I have mention above mean little for a shadow. I was getting bored and if I was anathema I would enjoy it immensely as I would have more targets to steal from :D

I know I stole a bunch of things and it sucks, I'm gone now, rejoice! I like the thieves class, when I come back I would try an arial full thug with scrolls to maximize the mechanical aspect of thieving: by building commerce points and gain edge points, by taking advantage of the dex changes, and by maximizing the fun by stealing from those strong classes I have no business fighting. I want to try this once the asssassin class is changed :D