Deleted Taeluin

March 17, 2017 02:40AM
It was fun. To the idiots complaining about bat: It looks good in a handful of logs. But it's ridiculously unpredictable. For all the logs you see of it lagging people twice in a fight, there are hundreds more where it does literally nothing but small amounts of damage. It's a good skill, but not a great one because you cannot even remotely predict or control what you get out of it. Maybe you'll get some maledicts.. maybe those maledicts will stack. Maybe you'll get a trip here and there. Maybe two in a row. Usually you get nothing.

I compare it to PWK. If the only logs you saw of PWK in use were where people were killed in one spell, you'd be bitching about it being overpowered. If you saw the truth of it failing the first 999 times out of 1000, you probably wouldn't. But no one posts those logs, because.. what's the point?

Bat spam is basically a hope and a prayer that you'll get something useful out of it. Most of the time you don't. The reason you see most champions spam bat is because they literally don't have anything else to do. Wrath spam is pretty ineffective now, since they bumped it to 2 rounds. Fend is pretty useless in PK. Marshall is great (and is the skill everyone should be complaining about), but it's a one-time thing per fight for the most part. Maneuver is awesome, but niche. That leaves champions with the choice of bat or.. pugil maybe? They choose bat not because it's overpowered, but because it's the only real viable option. And sometimes it looks really really good.. most of the time it doesn't.

I will admit, at low levels bat spam is awesome because it pumps out enough damage to kill people really quick.. assuming anyone is logged on that you can kill. Beyond that, most of the time it's just something to do.

Anyway, I deleted because my Imm went dormant about 10 hours into the char. There are also zero Fort Imms as far as I could tell which sucks because promoting within the cabal requires Imms. And frankly, a champion build isn't as much fun as people seem to think.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2017 02:46AM by Java.
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Deleted Taeluin

Java 525 March 17, 2017 02:40AM

I'm starting to think it's kind of tradition in CF to insult people out of the game

scr 462 March 17, 2017 09:40PM

Swing and a miss. Again. n/t

jalim 207 March 18, 2017 01:05PM

I see what you did there. nt

Isildur(VIP) 206 March 19, 2017 04:16PM

Anxiously awaiting your Champion paladin. NT

Sam 217 March 18, 2017 11:44AM

Paladins do not fit my style.

scr 292 March 18, 2017 12:55PM

that's fine. txt

Isildur(VIP) 277 March 20, 2017 02:18PM

You can't rack up a crazy amount of kills as a paladin

Kstatida 252 March 21, 2017 12:12AM

Re: You can't rack up a crazy amount of kills as a paladin

Isildur(VIP) 281 March 21, 2017 03:19AM

We don't need to measure it, it's an established fact

Kstatida 282 March 21, 2017 03:25AM

Fake news. Throw is OP. Bat is OP. Assassins is OP. Elfs is OP. STSF is OP. omg just shut up and play something decent. n/t

jalim 219 March 27, 2017 01:47PM

I've just played a decent bard

Kstatida 239 March 27, 2017 11:22PM

You forgot Liches are OP. Dopple is OP. Wide Copper is OP. TOME! is OP. Improved Flee is OP. NT

Sam 272 March 27, 2017 02:50PM

I don't get the improved flee thing

Kstatida 238 March 27, 2017 11:23PM

Search for Jerrokrar and improved flee is OP. (n/t)

Frosty 278 March 28, 2017 07:35AM

Hey Krunk! Improoved fleeee! :) (n/t)

Frosty 272 March 27, 2017 02:54PM

Improved flee is OP though... Just ask Jerry.

laearrist 248 March 27, 2017 04:34PM

We can't ask Jerry. We ditched him.

Murphy 253 March 27, 2017 05:49PM

Neither do yours. (n/t)

Frosty 202 March 21, 2017 06:44AM

That's like, your opinion, man. (n/t)

Kstatida 197 March 21, 2017 11:10AM

If you're going to do it, do it right. (n/t)

Frosty 196 March 21, 2017 11:50AM

See? Balanced. (n/t)

Murphy 203 March 21, 2017 02:21AM

Yes. I think you're an idiot. I thought I was clear on that.

Java 289 March 18, 2017 12:43AM

In fact you're wrong

Kstatida 284 March 19, 2017 12:31PM

Really? Did he get more kills with that character than his HEALER? No? Ok gotcha. NT

Sam 206 March 20, 2017 06:20AM

Re: In fact you're wrong

demos 276 March 19, 2017 04:12PM

Ah alright, I smell butthurt here, discussion is over. (n/t)

scr 202 March 18, 2017 03:05AM

That's just Java in his normal state.

Rhyaldrin 276 March 18, 2017 03:06AM

I feel like with all the anger you have towards me I should probably know who you are.

Java 237 March 19, 2017 11:37PM

Shouldn't you be at a rally to raise awareness for the lack of respect that civilians give to soldiers? n/t

Stevers 196 March 20, 2017 03:29AM

I'm just curious if he have twin brother. (n/t)

scr 194 March 18, 2017 04:17AM

Lol bat is fine. (n/t)

Murphy 277 March 17, 2017 09:41PM

I don't know. I could swear I've been hit twice by bat between combat rounds.

Quixotic 258 March 18, 2017 05:11AM

Max attacks I got was 16 between rounds... Also had it edges for 2 strikes, so 8-ish without... Also improved flee (n/t)

laearrist 200 March 18, 2017 05:52AM

Add halfling luck and it's OP.

Matrik 226 March 19, 2017 08:57PM

The only thing lucky about halflings is

Stevers 230 March 20, 2017 03:30AM

*gasp* (n/t)

Matrik 193 March 20, 2017 06:59AM

Re: Deleted Taeluin

demos 275 March 17, 2017 12:32PM

Occasionally, bat looks ridiculous

Java 272 March 17, 2017 12:44PM

Stop narrowing to lagging, bat is OP even WITHOUT lag (n/t)

Kstatida 201 March 17, 2017 11:06PM

I also recall batting some ragers helmet off while fighting in the red horn. I'll see if I can find the log (n/t)

demos 252 March 17, 2017 08:52PM

Re: Occasionally, bat looks ridiculous

Isildur(VIP) 252 March 17, 2017 04:31PM

So, basically, it's like deathblow.

Murphy 276 March 17, 2017 04:24PM

And deathblow is not OP. WE SOLVED IT GAIS! NT

Sam 204 March 18, 2017 11:45AM

*clap*

Frosty 238 March 18, 2017 01:11PM

Excellent post. A shame nobody will actually listen RE: Bat Pally

jalim 282 March 17, 2017 11:57AM

Did you just call me a "nobody"? (n/t)

Murphy 191 March 17, 2017 04:23PM

No but a hit dog will holler. n/t

jalim 206 March 18, 2017 05:30AM

Bat's still better than shield ded co wrathers.

sleepy 248 March 17, 2017 12:27PM

Hmmmmmmmm.

jalim 268 March 17, 2017 12:29PM

Maybe....

Java 261 March 17, 2017 12:34PM

Dude, we've fought you a lot

Kstatida 276 March 17, 2017 11:05AM

As much as you think you've seen bat in action..

Java 274 March 17, 2017 12:21PM

Don't be so focused on lag, it's only ONE of the problems

Kstatida 238 March 17, 2017 11:04PM

Here's what you don't get:

Java 249 March 18, 2017 12:42AM

Just wait until he finds out that Wolverines can conceivably rake every round. He may become a less intelligent Murph. NT

Sam 192 March 20, 2017 06:22AM

Now do please tell me.

Kstatida 260 March 19, 2017 12:26PM

Because it isn't 2 times per round

Java 216 March 19, 2017 11:35PM

I WAS going to say that about the 1.5 per round instead of 2, but...

Frosty 215 March 20, 2017 06:49AM

Because random.

Matrik 202 March 19, 2017 08:52PM

You're both kind of right

starbright 247 March 18, 2017 01:58AM

Its also less than trip lag. n/t

jalim 202 March 17, 2017 12:28PM

Logs testify otherwise (n/t)

Kstatida 198 March 17, 2017 11:06PM

Which ones?

Java 221 March 18, 2017 12:39AM

If I had to guess I'd say 1.1 but sometimes it stacks back to back. n/t

jalim 194 March 18, 2017 03:57AM

BTW, I don't know who sleepy is..

Java 295 March 17, 2017 03:50AM

Except I never called you a cheater.

sleepy 283 March 17, 2017 09:00AM

Seriously?

Java 266 March 17, 2017 12:01PM

Re: Seriously?

sleepy 247 March 17, 2017 12:25PM

Re: Seriously?

Java 260 March 17, 2017 12:52PM

You mean you have never asked someone IRL "Who did you kill to get" XYZ?

Quixotic 295 March 18, 2017 09:32AM

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

mcbeth 250 March 17, 2017 01:00PM

Java you're being trolled. n/t

jalim 177 March 17, 2017 01:02PM

It's still really easy to do apparently. (n/t)

Rhyaldrin 195 March 18, 2017 12:42AM

Re: Except I never called you a cheater.

jhyrbian 247 March 17, 2017 09:12AM

Disappointing, but understandable. GLWYN (n/t)

laearrist 205 March 17, 2017 03:31AM



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