Deleted Taeluin

March 17, 2017 02:40AM
It was fun. To the idiots complaining about bat: It looks good in a handful of logs. But it's ridiculously unpredictable. For all the logs you see of it lagging people twice in a fight, there are hundreds more where it does literally nothing but small amounts of damage. It's a good skill, but not a great one because you cannot even remotely predict or control what you get out of it. Maybe you'll get some maledicts.. maybe those maledicts will stack. Maybe you'll get a trip here and there. Maybe two in a row. Usually you get nothing.

I compare it to PWK. If the only logs you saw of PWK in use were where people were killed in one spell, you'd be bitching about it being overpowered. If you saw the truth of it failing the first 999 times out of 1000, you probably wouldn't. But no one posts those logs, because.. what's the point?

Bat spam is basically a hope and a prayer that you'll get something useful out of it. Most of the time you don't. The reason you see most champions spam bat is because they literally don't have anything else to do. Wrath spam is pretty ineffective now, since they bumped it to 2 rounds. Fend is pretty useless in PK. Marshall is great (and is the skill everyone should be complaining about), but it's a one-time thing per fight for the most part. Maneuver is awesome, but niche. That leaves champions with the choice of bat or.. pugil maybe? They choose bat not because it's overpowered, but because it's the only real viable option. And sometimes it looks really really good.. most of the time it doesn't.

I will admit, at low levels bat spam is awesome because it pumps out enough damage to kill people really quick.. assuming anyone is logged on that you can kill. Beyond that, most of the time it's just something to do.

Anyway, I deleted because my Imm went dormant about 10 hours into the char. There are also zero Fort Imms as far as I could tell which sucks because promoting within the cabal requires Imms. And frankly, a champion build isn't as much fun as people seem to think.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2017 02:46AM by Java.
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Deleted Taeluin

Java 550 March 17, 2017 02:40AM

I'm starting to think it's kind of tradition in CF to insult people out of the game

scr 476 March 17, 2017 09:40PM

Swing and a miss. Again. n/t

jalim 221 March 18, 2017 01:05PM

I see what you did there. nt

Isildur(VIP) 222 March 19, 2017 04:16PM

Anxiously awaiting your Champion paladin. NT

Sam 232 March 18, 2017 11:44AM

Paladins do not fit my style.

scr 306 March 18, 2017 12:55PM

that's fine. txt

Isildur(VIP) 292 March 20, 2017 02:18PM

You can't rack up a crazy amount of kills as a paladin

Kstatida 265 March 21, 2017 12:12AM

Re: You can't rack up a crazy amount of kills as a paladin

Isildur(VIP) 295 March 21, 2017 03:19AM

We don't need to measure it, it's an established fact

Kstatida 295 March 21, 2017 03:25AM

Fake news. Throw is OP. Bat is OP. Assassins is OP. Elfs is OP. STSF is OP. omg just shut up and play something decent. n/t

jalim 232 March 27, 2017 01:47PM

I've just played a decent bard

Kstatida 253 March 27, 2017 11:22PM

You forgot Liches are OP. Dopple is OP. Wide Copper is OP. TOME! is OP. Improved Flee is OP. NT

Sam 284 March 27, 2017 02:50PM

I don't get the improved flee thing

Kstatida 253 March 27, 2017 11:23PM

Search for Jerrokrar and improved flee is OP. (n/t)

Frosty 293 March 28, 2017 07:35AM

Hey Krunk! Improoved fleeee! :) (n/t)

Frosty 286 March 27, 2017 02:54PM

Improved flee is OP though... Just ask Jerry.

laearrist 260 March 27, 2017 04:34PM

We can't ask Jerry. We ditched him.

Murphy 269 March 27, 2017 05:49PM

Neither do yours. (n/t)

Frosty 217 March 21, 2017 06:44AM

That's like, your opinion, man. (n/t)

Kstatida 212 March 21, 2017 11:10AM

If you're going to do it, do it right. (n/t)

Frosty 208 March 21, 2017 11:50AM

See? Balanced. (n/t)

Murphy 216 March 21, 2017 02:21AM

Yes. I think you're an idiot. I thought I was clear on that.

Java 305 March 18, 2017 12:43AM

In fact you're wrong

Kstatida 299 March 19, 2017 12:31PM

Really? Did he get more kills with that character than his HEALER? No? Ok gotcha. NT

Sam 219 March 20, 2017 06:20AM

Re: In fact you're wrong

demos 290 March 19, 2017 04:12PM

Ah alright, I smell butthurt here, discussion is over. (n/t)

scr 217 March 18, 2017 03:05AM

That's just Java in his normal state.

Rhyaldrin 290 March 18, 2017 03:06AM

I feel like with all the anger you have towards me I should probably know who you are.

Java 253 March 19, 2017 11:37PM

Shouldn't you be at a rally to raise awareness for the lack of respect that civilians give to soldiers? n/t

Stevers 210 March 20, 2017 03:29AM

I'm just curious if he have twin brother. (n/t)

scr 209 March 18, 2017 04:17AM

Lol bat is fine. (n/t)

Murphy 301 March 17, 2017 09:41PM

I don't know. I could swear I've been hit twice by bat between combat rounds.

Quixotic 273 March 18, 2017 05:11AM

Max attacks I got was 16 between rounds... Also had it edges for 2 strikes, so 8-ish without... Also improved flee (n/t)

laearrist 215 March 18, 2017 05:52AM

Add halfling luck and it's OP.

Matrik 241 March 19, 2017 08:57PM

The only thing lucky about halflings is

Stevers 243 March 20, 2017 03:30AM

*gasp* (n/t)

Matrik 207 March 20, 2017 06:59AM

Re: Deleted Taeluin

demos 289 March 17, 2017 12:32PM

Occasionally, bat looks ridiculous

Java 288 March 17, 2017 12:44PM

Stop narrowing to lagging, bat is OP even WITHOUT lag (n/t)

Kstatida 216 March 17, 2017 11:06PM

I also recall batting some ragers helmet off while fighting in the red horn. I'll see if I can find the log (n/t)

demos 267 March 17, 2017 08:52PM

Re: Occasionally, bat looks ridiculous

Isildur(VIP) 266 March 17, 2017 04:31PM

So, basically, it's like deathblow.

Murphy 290 March 17, 2017 04:24PM

And deathblow is not OP. WE SOLVED IT GAIS! NT

Sam 219 March 18, 2017 11:45AM

*clap*

Frosty 253 March 18, 2017 01:11PM

Excellent post. A shame nobody will actually listen RE: Bat Pally

jalim 296 March 17, 2017 11:57AM

Did you just call me a "nobody"? (n/t)

Murphy 206 March 17, 2017 04:23PM

No but a hit dog will holler. n/t

jalim 221 March 18, 2017 05:30AM

Bat's still better than shield ded co wrathers.

sleepy 263 March 17, 2017 12:27PM

Hmmmmmmmm.

jalim 283 March 17, 2017 12:29PM

Maybe....

Java 275 March 17, 2017 12:34PM

Dude, we've fought you a lot

Kstatida 290 March 17, 2017 11:05AM

As much as you think you've seen bat in action..

Java 290 March 17, 2017 12:21PM

Don't be so focused on lag, it's only ONE of the problems

Kstatida 251 March 17, 2017 11:04PM

Here's what you don't get:

Java 266 March 18, 2017 12:42AM

Just wait until he finds out that Wolverines can conceivably rake every round. He may become a less intelligent Murph. NT

Sam 206 March 20, 2017 06:22AM

Now do please tell me.

Kstatida 277 March 19, 2017 12:26PM

Because it isn't 2 times per round

Java 230 March 19, 2017 11:35PM

I WAS going to say that about the 1.5 per round instead of 2, but...

Frosty 230 March 20, 2017 06:49AM

Because random.

Matrik 217 March 19, 2017 08:52PM

You're both kind of right

starbright 260 March 18, 2017 01:58AM

Its also less than trip lag. n/t

jalim 213 March 17, 2017 12:28PM

Logs testify otherwise (n/t)

Kstatida 212 March 17, 2017 11:06PM

Which ones?

Java 236 March 18, 2017 12:39AM

If I had to guess I'd say 1.1 but sometimes it stacks back to back. n/t

jalim 208 March 18, 2017 03:57AM

BTW, I don't know who sleepy is..

Java 307 March 17, 2017 03:50AM

Except I never called you a cheater.

sleepy 297 March 17, 2017 09:00AM

Seriously?

Java 280 March 17, 2017 12:01PM

Re: Seriously?

sleepy 261 March 17, 2017 12:25PM

Re: Seriously?

Java 274 March 17, 2017 12:52PM

You mean you have never asked someone IRL "Who did you kill to get" XYZ?

Quixotic 311 March 18, 2017 09:32AM

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

mcbeth 266 March 17, 2017 01:00PM

Java you're being trolled. n/t

jalim 189 March 17, 2017 01:02PM

It's still really easy to do apparently. (n/t)

Rhyaldrin 212 March 18, 2017 12:42AM

Re: Except I never called you a cheater.

jhyrbian 260 March 17, 2017 09:12AM

Disappointing, but understandable. GLWYN (n/t)

laearrist 220 March 17, 2017 03:31AM



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