Here's what you don't get:

March 18, 2017 12:42AM
The more different things bat can do does NOT make it a better skill. It makes it a less predictable and therefore worse skill.

That's like taking away trip from assassins and saying "Sometimes nerve will still nerve. But now sometimes it will trip. The majority of the time, it will do absolutely nothing. It's more powerful now". That's just not true.

And it's an unblockable hit 1-2 times a round that does about half your normal melee damage. In that sense, damage-wise it's absolutely worse than jab or serpentstrike.
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Deleted Taeluin

Java 491 March 17, 2017 02:40AM

I'm starting to think it's kind of tradition in CF to insult people out of the game

scr 440 March 17, 2017 09:40PM

Swing and a miss. Again. n/t

jalim 187 March 18, 2017 01:05PM

I see what you did there. nt

Isildur(VIP) 184 March 19, 2017 04:16PM

Anxiously awaiting your Champion paladin. NT

Sam 196 March 18, 2017 11:44AM

Paladins do not fit my style.

scr 269 March 18, 2017 12:55PM

that's fine. txt

Isildur(VIP) 257 March 20, 2017 02:18PM

You can't rack up a crazy amount of kills as a paladin

Kstatida 231 March 21, 2017 12:12AM

Re: You can't rack up a crazy amount of kills as a paladin

Isildur(VIP) 255 March 21, 2017 03:19AM

We don't need to measure it, it's an established fact

Kstatida 257 March 21, 2017 03:25AM

Fake news. Throw is OP. Bat is OP. Assassins is OP. Elfs is OP. STSF is OP. omg just shut up and play something decent. n/t

jalim 198 March 27, 2017 01:47PM

I've just played a decent bard

Kstatida 221 March 27, 2017 11:22PM

You forgot Liches are OP. Dopple is OP. Wide Copper is OP. TOME! is OP. Improved Flee is OP. NT

Sam 249 March 27, 2017 02:50PM

I don't get the improved flee thing

Kstatida 220 March 27, 2017 11:23PM

Search for Jerrokrar and improved flee is OP. (n/t)

Frosty 255 March 28, 2017 07:35AM

Hey Krunk! Improoved fleeee! :) (n/t)

Frosty 251 March 27, 2017 02:54PM

Improved flee is OP though... Just ask Jerry.

laearrist 228 March 27, 2017 04:34PM

We can't ask Jerry. We ditched him.

Murphy 235 March 27, 2017 05:49PM

Neither do yours. (n/t)

Frosty 177 March 21, 2017 06:44AM

That's like, your opinion, man. (n/t)

Kstatida 174 March 21, 2017 11:10AM

If you're going to do it, do it right. (n/t)

Frosty 173 March 21, 2017 11:50AM

See? Balanced. (n/t)

Murphy 179 March 21, 2017 02:21AM

Yes. I think you're an idiot. I thought I was clear on that.

Java 269 March 18, 2017 12:43AM

In fact you're wrong

Kstatida 265 March 19, 2017 12:31PM

Really? Did he get more kills with that character than his HEALER? No? Ok gotcha. NT

Sam 186 March 20, 2017 06:20AM

Re: In fact you're wrong

demos 256 March 19, 2017 04:12PM

Ah alright, I smell butthurt here, discussion is over. (n/t)

scr 183 March 18, 2017 03:05AM

That's just Java in his normal state.

Rhyaldrin 256 March 18, 2017 03:06AM

I feel like with all the anger you have towards me I should probably know who you are.

Java 218 March 19, 2017 11:37PM

Shouldn't you be at a rally to raise awareness for the lack of respect that civilians give to soldiers? n/t

Stevers 178 March 20, 2017 03:29AM

I'm just curious if he have twin brother. (n/t)

scr 175 March 18, 2017 04:17AM

Lol bat is fine. (n/t)

Murphy 253 March 17, 2017 09:41PM

I don't know. I could swear I've been hit twice by bat between combat rounds.

Quixotic 239 March 18, 2017 05:11AM

Max attacks I got was 16 between rounds... Also had it edges for 2 strikes, so 8-ish without... Also improved flee (n/t)

laearrist 181 March 18, 2017 05:52AM

Add halfling luck and it's OP.

Matrik 206 March 19, 2017 08:57PM

The only thing lucky about halflings is

Stevers 212 March 20, 2017 03:30AM

*gasp* (n/t)

Matrik 175 March 20, 2017 06:59AM

Re: Deleted Taeluin

demos 258 March 17, 2017 12:32PM

Occasionally, bat looks ridiculous

Java 253 March 17, 2017 12:44PM

Stop narrowing to lagging, bat is OP even WITHOUT lag (n/t)

Kstatida 183 March 17, 2017 11:06PM

I also recall batting some ragers helmet off while fighting in the red horn. I'll see if I can find the log (n/t)

demos 229 March 17, 2017 08:52PM

Re: Occasionally, bat looks ridiculous

Isildur(VIP) 234 March 17, 2017 04:31PM

So, basically, it's like deathblow.

Murphy 255 March 17, 2017 04:24PM

And deathblow is not OP. WE SOLVED IT GAIS! NT

Sam 185 March 18, 2017 11:45AM

*clap*

Frosty 219 March 18, 2017 01:11PM

Excellent post. A shame nobody will actually listen RE: Bat Pally

jalim 261 March 17, 2017 11:57AM

Did you just call me a "nobody"? (n/t)

Murphy 173 March 17, 2017 04:23PM

No but a hit dog will holler. n/t

jalim 187 March 18, 2017 05:30AM

Bat's still better than shield ded co wrathers.

sleepy 228 March 17, 2017 12:27PM

Hmmmmmmmm.

jalim 250 March 17, 2017 12:29PM

Maybe....

Java 244 March 17, 2017 12:34PM

Dude, we've fought you a lot

Kstatida 257 March 17, 2017 11:05AM

As much as you think you've seen bat in action..

Java 254 March 17, 2017 12:21PM

Don't be so focused on lag, it's only ONE of the problems

Kstatida 219 March 17, 2017 11:04PM

Here's what you don't get:

Java 228 March 18, 2017 12:42AM

Just wait until he finds out that Wolverines can conceivably rake every round. He may become a less intelligent Murph. NT

Sam 173 March 20, 2017 06:22AM

Now do please tell me.

Kstatida 240 March 19, 2017 12:26PM

Because it isn't 2 times per round

Java 197 March 19, 2017 11:35PM

I WAS going to say that about the 1.5 per round instead of 2, but...

Frosty 196 March 20, 2017 06:49AM

Because random.

Matrik 182 March 19, 2017 08:52PM

You're both kind of right

starbright 226 March 18, 2017 01:58AM

Its also less than trip lag. n/t

jalim 183 March 17, 2017 12:28PM

Logs testify otherwise (n/t)

Kstatida 179 March 17, 2017 11:06PM

Which ones?

Java 203 March 18, 2017 12:39AM

If I had to guess I'd say 1.1 but sometimes it stacks back to back. n/t

jalim 174 March 18, 2017 03:57AM

BTW, I don't know who sleepy is..

Java 275 March 17, 2017 03:50AM

Except I never called you a cheater.

sleepy 261 March 17, 2017 09:00AM

Seriously?

Java 245 March 17, 2017 12:01PM

Re: Seriously?

sleepy 226 March 17, 2017 12:25PM

Re: Seriously?

Java 242 March 17, 2017 12:52PM

You mean you have never asked someone IRL "Who did you kill to get" XYZ?

Quixotic 272 March 18, 2017 09:32AM

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

mcbeth 232 March 17, 2017 01:00PM

Java you're being trolled. n/t

jalim 162 March 17, 2017 01:02PM

It's still really easy to do apparently. (n/t)

Rhyaldrin 176 March 18, 2017 12:42AM

Re: Except I never called you a cheater.

jhyrbian 228 March 17, 2017 09:12AM

Disappointing, but understandable. GLWYN (n/t)

laearrist 185 March 17, 2017 03:31AM



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