Because it isn't 2 times per round

March 19, 2017 11:35PM
Sometimes 2..sometimes 1. Averages out to about 1.5 times per round, so even if each hit is 70% (I never crunched the numbers) it's still a wash.

Plus it's tough to time that effectively which means you have to spam a round or so in advance to even take advantage of the low lag.

But that leaves you open to all kinds of ways to take advantage of your spam. All that without having any idea when or if you'll ever get the useful effects of bat.

If I only want damage (which is all you get most of the time) I'd definitely prefer something more predictable.

Again.. Bat is all about spamming and hoping for something good. That isn't overpowered.. It's just annoying. If that sounds fun to you.. Give it a shot.
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Deleted Taeluin

Java 437 March 17, 2017 02:40AM

I'm starting to think it's kind of tradition in CF to insult people out of the game

scr 380 March 17, 2017 09:40PM

Swing and a miss. Again. n/t

jalim 152 March 18, 2017 01:05PM

I see what you did there. nt

Isildur(VIP) 150 March 19, 2017 04:16PM

Anxiously awaiting your Champion paladin. NT

Sam 159 March 18, 2017 11:44AM

Paladins do not fit my style.

scr 232 March 18, 2017 12:55PM

that's fine. txt

Isildur(VIP) 221 March 20, 2017 02:18PM

You can't rack up a crazy amount of kills as a paladin

Kstatida 195 March 21, 2017 12:12AM

Re: You can't rack up a crazy amount of kills as a paladin

Isildur(VIP) 218 March 21, 2017 03:19AM

We don't need to measure it, it's an established fact

Kstatida 223 March 21, 2017 03:25AM

Fake news. Throw is OP. Bat is OP. Assassins is OP. Elfs is OP. STSF is OP. omg just shut up and play something decent. n/t

jalim 163 March 27, 2017 01:47PM

I've just played a decent bard

Kstatida 183 March 27, 2017 11:22PM

You forgot Liches are OP. Dopple is OP. Wide Copper is OP. TOME! is OP. Improved Flee is OP. NT

Sam 184 March 27, 2017 02:50PM

I don't get the improved flee thing

Kstatida 182 March 27, 2017 11:23PM

Search for Jerrokrar and improved flee is OP. (n/t)

Frosty 195 March 28, 2017 07:35AM

Hey Krunk! Improoved fleeee! :) (n/t)

Frosty 199 March 27, 2017 02:54PM

Improved flee is OP though... Just ask Jerry.

laearrist 191 March 27, 2017 04:34PM

We can't ask Jerry. We ditched him.

Murphy 200 March 27, 2017 05:49PM

Neither do yours. (n/t)

Frosty 143 March 21, 2017 06:44AM

That's like, your opinion, man. (n/t)

Kstatida 140 March 21, 2017 11:10AM

If you're going to do it, do it right. (n/t)

Frosty 140 March 21, 2017 11:50AM

See? Balanced. (n/t)

Murphy 145 March 21, 2017 02:21AM

Yes. I think you're an idiot. I thought I was clear on that.

Java 233 March 18, 2017 12:43AM

In fact you're wrong

Kstatida 229 March 19, 2017 12:31PM

Really? Did he get more kills with that character than his HEALER? No? Ok gotcha. NT

Sam 151 March 20, 2017 06:20AM

Re: In fact you're wrong

demos 220 March 19, 2017 04:12PM

Ah alright, I smell butthurt here, discussion is over. (n/t)

scr 149 March 18, 2017 03:05AM

That's just Java in his normal state.

Rhyaldrin 222 March 18, 2017 03:06AM

I feel like with all the anger you have towards me I should probably know who you are.

Java 185 March 19, 2017 11:37PM

Shouldn't you be at a rally to raise awareness for the lack of respect that civilians give to soldiers? n/t

Stevers 144 March 20, 2017 03:29AM

I'm just curious if he have twin brother. (n/t)

scr 141 March 18, 2017 04:17AM

Lol bat is fine. (n/t)

Murphy 188 March 17, 2017 09:41PM

I don't know. I could swear I've been hit twice by bat between combat rounds.

Quixotic 193 March 18, 2017 05:11AM

Max attacks I got was 16 between rounds... Also had it edges for 2 strikes, so 8-ish without... Also improved flee (n/t)

laearrist 148 March 18, 2017 05:52AM

Add halfling luck and it's OP.

Matrik 170 March 19, 2017 08:57PM

The only thing lucky about halflings is

Stevers 179 March 20, 2017 03:30AM

*gasp* (n/t)

Matrik 141 March 20, 2017 06:59AM

Re: Deleted Taeluin

demos 225 March 17, 2017 12:32PM

Occasionally, bat looks ridiculous

Java 220 March 17, 2017 12:44PM

Stop narrowing to lagging, bat is OP even WITHOUT lag (n/t)

Kstatida 149 March 17, 2017 11:06PM

I also recall batting some ragers helmet off while fighting in the red horn. I'll see if I can find the log (n/t)

demos 174 March 17, 2017 08:52PM

Re: Occasionally, bat looks ridiculous

Isildur(VIP) 199 March 17, 2017 04:31PM

So, basically, it's like deathblow.

Murphy 222 March 17, 2017 04:24PM

And deathblow is not OP. WE SOLVED IT GAIS! NT

Sam 151 March 18, 2017 11:45AM

*clap*

Frosty 187 March 18, 2017 01:11PM

Excellent post. A shame nobody will actually listen RE: Bat Pally

jalim 224 March 17, 2017 11:57AM

Did you just call me a "nobody"? (n/t)

Murphy 138 March 17, 2017 04:23PM

No but a hit dog will holler. n/t

jalim 150 March 18, 2017 05:30AM

Bat's still better than shield ded co wrathers.

sleepy 189 March 17, 2017 12:27PM

Hmmmmmmmm.

jalim 211 March 17, 2017 12:29PM

Maybe....

Java 208 March 17, 2017 12:34PM

Dude, we've fought you a lot

Kstatida 224 March 17, 2017 11:05AM

As much as you think you've seen bat in action..

Java 219 March 17, 2017 12:21PM

Don't be so focused on lag, it's only ONE of the problems

Kstatida 183 March 17, 2017 11:04PM

Here's what you don't get:

Java 197 March 18, 2017 12:42AM

Just wait until he finds out that Wolverines can conceivably rake every round. He may become a less intelligent Murph. NT

Sam 138 March 20, 2017 06:22AM

Now do please tell me.

Kstatida 204 March 19, 2017 12:26PM

Because it isn't 2 times per round

Java 162 March 19, 2017 11:35PM

I WAS going to say that about the 1.5 per round instead of 2, but...

Frosty 160 March 20, 2017 06:49AM

Because random.

Matrik 147 March 19, 2017 08:52PM

You're both kind of right

starbright 190 March 18, 2017 01:58AM

Its also less than trip lag. n/t

jalim 151 March 17, 2017 12:28PM

Logs testify otherwise (n/t)

Kstatida 145 March 17, 2017 11:06PM

Which ones?

Java 168 March 18, 2017 12:39AM

If I had to guess I'd say 1.1 but sometimes it stacks back to back. n/t

jalim 138 March 18, 2017 03:57AM

BTW, I don't know who sleepy is..

Java 241 March 17, 2017 03:50AM

Except I never called you a cheater.

sleepy 224 March 17, 2017 09:00AM

Seriously?

Java 206 March 17, 2017 12:01PM

Re: Seriously?

sleepy 191 March 17, 2017 12:25PM

Re: Seriously?

Java 205 March 17, 2017 12:52PM

You mean you have never asked someone IRL "Who did you kill to get" XYZ?

Quixotic 203 March 18, 2017 09:32AM

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

mcbeth 193 March 17, 2017 01:00PM

Java you're being trolled. n/t

jalim 135 March 17, 2017 01:02PM

It's still really easy to do apparently. (n/t)

Rhyaldrin 143 March 18, 2017 12:42AM

Re: Except I never called you a cheater.

jhyrbian 194 March 17, 2017 09:12AM

Disappointing, but understandable. GLWYN (n/t)

laearrist 151 March 17, 2017 03:31AM



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