While this is a tragedy..boy do I feel vindicated! LETS BAN KNIVES!!!

Nurok

April 10, 2014 09:48AM

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I've long said that you don't stop these deadly rampages by blocking access to the 'tools' that are used to commit them, rather you address the REAL issue that is our culture/upbringing/ability to respect others etc.

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While this is a tragedy..boy do I feel vindicated! LETS BAN KNIVES!!!	Nurok	April 10, 2014 09:48AM
In this country knives above a certain length are banned	Elystan	April 11, 2014 01:38AM
Are you sure?	Death_Claw	April 11, 2014 03:51PM
in your country, Rambo would have been killed by that sheriff, thereby depriving us of several good sequels (n/t)	Doof	April 11, 2014 05:35AM
About that	Elystan	April 11, 2014 10:30AM
Exactly the opposite. If he'd had a gun, we'd have dozens if not scores more dead. Guns kill people. That's all they do. (n/t)	alansmithee	April 10, 2014 10:23AM
Actually, bullets kill people. I'm sure someone has been beat to death with a gun, but I haven't heard about it yet. NT	Sam	April 16, 2014 12:25PM
"It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the end." (n/t)	Murphy	April 16, 2014 09:34PM
The fact that guns kill people is precisely the reason why we need them nt	Rade	April 12, 2014 04:24PM
I disagree. A gun is much louder and almost immediately provokes an evacuation and a 911 call. Kids yell and scream at shit in school halls all the time. I imagine he got quite a few down before anyone knew what was happening. (n/t)	Doof	April 11, 2014 12:41AM
Past incident record shows you quite clearly wrong.	vortexmagus	April 11, 2014 11:21AM
Current incident and logic show me clearly right, and you clearly a snobbish ass. Ever hear of sarcasm? (n/t)	Doof	April 11, 2014 11:34PM
Didn't read like sarcasm to me. Perhaps you should work on it. (n/t)	vortexmagus	April 12, 2014 06:40AM
I WILL. snap (n/t)	Doof	April 12, 2014 01:18PM
You Sir ARE WRONG and need to have a talk with Homer J. Simpson. Guns do a LOT more than just kill shit.	Frosty	April 10, 2014 03:26PM
yeah, i almost feel like its a troll post. txt	Isildur(VIP)	April 10, 2014 11:45AM
You also have to factor in how many deaths are prevented by gun vs prevented by knife.	PaulO	April 10, 2014 02:36PM
Something is wrong in a society if you need guns(or knives) to protect yourself in the first place. (n/t)	Cerunnir	April 29, 2014 09:59PM
If you don't have a gun/weapon in your home...	Death_Claw	April 10, 2014 11:24AM
I'm glad I dont live in a place where one feel the need to own a gun to protect oneself. (n/t)	Cerunnir	April 15, 2014 12:26AM
Last I checked people get murdered everywhere on earth.	Death_Claw	April 22, 2014 12:12PM
Numbers.	Matrik	April 10, 2014 11:29AM
It's true.	Death_Claw	April 10, 2014 11:31AM
there is one flaw with your logic	Quas	April 10, 2014 11:50AM
I REFUSE TO SURRENDER MY MODEL T-1 !!!!! (n/t)	Nurok	April 11, 2014 04:02AM
T-1? Liquid metal is where it's at. Splurge for the T-1000, my friend. (n/t)	MiyagiYojimbo	April 11, 2014 02:11PM
Are you Bruce Lee?	Death_Claw	April 10, 2014 03:51PM
The point he was making is still valid:	vortexmagus	April 11, 2014 11:17AM
Body armor has been around for 60 years and it's still not legal. Let's debate the point when it's not fantasy. n/t	Death_Claw	April 11, 2014 03:41PM
Kevlar vests are legal to own and use in most states, unless you're a convicted felon.	vortexmagus	April 11, 2014 09:24PM
Right, but adamantite is still banned. (n/t)	Matrik	April 12, 2014 10:39AM
Rejoice! We already have the right to carry around high caliber rifles!	MiyagiYojimbo	April 11, 2014 02:07PM
I'm pretty sure ammo with military grade penetration is restricted, though. (n/t)	vortexmagus	April 11, 2014 03:16PM
You don't need it.	Death_Claw	April 11, 2014 03:44PM
You don't need it.	Death_Claw	April 11, 2014 03:44PM
Except fighting guns with guns wasn't his logic. Using guns to fight stronger opponent was his logic. (n/t)	Matrik	April 10, 2014 12:10PM
agreed, the effort to damage ratio on guns far far outstrips a knife, this was like a 5 minute rampage and so far everyone has "survived" there would have been 10+ corpses if he had a gun and a principle couldn't have subdued him as easily (n/t)	Quas	April 10, 2014 10:27AM
Why didn't he use a gun then?	Matrik	April 10, 2014 11:16AM
there has not been enough information released to answer that question (n/t)	Quas	April 10, 2014 11:51AM
Convenient. (n/t)	Matrik	April 10, 2014 01:22PM
It was not all that long ago I was playing against that school or having practices at their fields (n/t)	Quas	April 10, 2014 10:17AM
While both sides will pounce on this situation to prove their point, this rampage wasn't "deadly." (n/t)	wrathpuppet	April 10, 2014 09:55AM
boo double post. (n/t)	Nurok	April 10, 2014 09:57AM
Couple kids are eviscerated and its uncertain as to whether or not they will make it	Nurok	April 10, 2014 09:57AM
Unless they're Ragers they shouldn't die from the bleeding at a healer.	wrathpuppet	April 10, 2014 01:00PM
They might run out of gold (n/t)	Elystan	April 10, 2014 01:04PM
Snakes don't kill people, people kill people.	Matrik	April 10, 2014 10:11AM
Gravity saves WAY more than it kills, ban anti-gravity. (n/t)	NbM(VIP)	April 10, 2014 10:14AM
Guns and knives also save lives!	Matrik	April 10, 2014 11:14AM
No. That is wrong.	alansmithee	April 10, 2014 12:41PM
What could possibly go wrong? (n/t)	Rhyaldrin	April 12, 2014 12:07AM
I'm glad you feel that you should get to make that decision for us all, o wise one.	Doof	April 11, 2014 11:38PM
I tend to agree with Miyagi.	Death_Claw	April 10, 2014 04:15PM
WTF? Aren't you a lawyer?	MiyagiYojimbo	April 10, 2014 03:36PM
I have no particularly strong opinions on the gun control debate, but	Dune	April 12, 2014 05:46PM
Re: I have no particularly strong opinions on the gun control debate, but	MiyagiYojimbo	April 13, 2014 01:44AM
Re: I have no particularly strong opinions on the gun control debate, but	Dune	April 13, 2014 12:52PM
Re: I have no particularly strong opinions on the gun control debate, but	MiyagiYojimbo	April 13, 2014 04:34PM
Only problem with that...	Matrik	April 10, 2014 05:49PM
I agree	MiyagiYojimbo	April 10, 2014 06:10PM
Well you're WRONG. Now is always the time to burn documents.	Matrik	April 10, 2014 06:11PM
Crimeth incorporation defies and helps your cause at the same time. (n/t)	MiyagiYojimbo	April 10, 2014 06:15PM
Don't you use your fancy word talk on me. Ain't gunna work.	Matrik	April 10, 2014 06:38PM
Boat, boat... why not?	MiyagiYojimbo	April 10, 2014 07:48PM
You know it's not that simple.	wrathpuppet	April 10, 2014 03:51PM
It IS that simple.	Matrik	April 10, 2014 05:52PM
Cognitive dissonance.	MiyagiYojimbo	April 10, 2014 04:11PM
Wrathpuppet is right. This applies to both "sides" (n/t)	Matrik	April 10, 2014 05:53PM
The point is that they feel the same way about your views.	wrathpuppet	April 10, 2014 04:24PM
What if they really are that stupid though?	Matrik	April 10, 2014 05:55PM
Debate nerdery	MiyagiYojimbo	April 10, 2014 05:08PM
Heh, "Debate nerdery" "Colossus" (n/t)	Matrik	April 10, 2014 05:57PM
Debate nerdery? WTF are you talking about? It's common sense.	wrathpuppet	April 10, 2014 05:27PM
I'm sorry, from now on I won't take a side and instead just say both sides are stupid. That shows conviction.	MiyagiYojimbo	April 10, 2014 06:04PM
It's not about conviction.	wrathpuppet	April 11, 2014 04:17AM
Food for thought.	MiyagiYojimbo	April 11, 2014 02:02PM
The issue is that you're not as clear as you think you are.	wrathpuppet	April 11, 2014 09:03PM
You lose! (n/t)	MiyagiYojimbo	April 12, 2014 12:32AM
You know I wasn't arguing with you, right?	wrathpuppet	April 12, 2014 02:39AM
Oh no, sure you weren't.	MiyagiYojimbo	April 12, 2014 02:49AM
Here's how it happened from my POV.	wrathpuppet	April 12, 2014 03:31AM
We know how well laws keep people from doing things they shouldn't. (n/t)	Srev	April 12, 2014 12:29PM
name calling (n/t)	Matrik	April 12, 2014 10:38AM
Hmmm.. here's closer to the truth of the conversation.	MiyagiYojimbo	April 12, 2014 06:03AM
And it's not about what the law actually says.	PaulO	April 11, 2014 09:17AM
Anyone deciding based on fear on either side is a Tom Fool Uncle. (n/t)	Matrik	April 10, 2014 05:58PM
More uses:	Matrik	April 10, 2014 01:20PM
Guns have many uses. You are wrong.	Matrik	April 10, 2014 01:05PM
Not counting intimidating someone into leaving you alone. n/t	Death_Claw	April 10, 2014 04:16PM
That too.	Matrik	April 10, 2014 05:46PM

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