I don't think our point our views are that vastly different.

Jib
January 26, 2017 09:55AM
Different for sure, but I can see the logic in each side.

A couple things I wanted to clarify/add.

Re: 1.
Spot on. I agree that no meaningful discussions between nations can occur while the goals of globalism hold sway over US politics, because a major goal of globalism itself is to remove the lines of national boundaries and national interests. So the only discussions to be had (under globalism) are for the interests of globalism, and the goals of the nation are only secondary to make it look like they care. This is a large reason I was so strongly against Hillary.

Re: 2.
My take on globalism vs anti-globalism long-term, is that ultimately, long-term, globalism is inevitable, should the world survive. There is simply no way that more and more increases in technology that in turn increase our levels of communication and increase our ease of travel will not lead to more globalism. However, we needed/need to break down globalism in its current form in order to build it back up to something that actually benefits humanity in general, rather than the 1% of 1% that benefit from it today. My opinion is that the powers that be have artificially created the current form of globalism before the world is truly ready for it, for all intents and purposes, ramming it down our throats and doing a lot of damage to the individual in the process. Again, this is why I see the current populist, or "populist-light" movement in the U.S. under Trump as a good thing, for the time being. I think 100 years from now, we'll look back and see this time as a big turning point, and see that we really dodged a bullet-- at least from the U.S. perspective.

Re 3.
Interesting take from Russia's side of things, especially how they view the U.S. as part of some "Anglo-Saxon" bucket. I'm not saying we aren't, but it seems weird that we would be grouped into what is essentially a Western Europe/U.K. bucket, when it seems from our side that we're a lot different politically than they are. Maybe we really aren't though who knows.

My point being, however, wasn't that Russia was really trying to get on U.S.'s good side for the sake of getting on our good side, but rather, with an unspoken deal of, "we help you bomb the shit out of ISIS, because it benefits us both anyways, and then you leave us the hell alone about Syria" sort of thing. I'm not sure if it really goes much deeper than that. It will certainly take a lot more than working together on something like this temporarily to restore any long-lasting trust between the two Nations. I am indeed more interested to see if this will be sort of a trend or just a one time thing, and it seems that the Russian-US relationship will continue to be tenuous regardless.

Re 4.
I'll have to do more research myself, but I've had it explained by someone on pretty good authority that in the aftermath of the Syria conflict and now into negotiations, Russia is nowf saying to Iran, "thanks for playing, now get lost and let us handle the situation here, you can go home now". Which seems somewhat provocative from our perspective, but maybe it's just more business as usual.

Re 5.
Lol. You're exactly right. the U.S. has a tradition (more recently than in times past) of giving unqualified people positions of power in the U.N. and elsewhere, mostly for political reasons. (People like Kamala Harris come to mind, etc).
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Oil the flames

Kstatida January 23, 2017 10:52PM

Thanks for sharing.

Jib January 25, 2017 12:10PM

Well, I'll try to cut it in pieces

Kstatida January 26, 2017 01:12AM

This sounds about similar to CF cabal politics, lol. (n/t)

Murphy January 27, 2017 03:38PM

I don't think our point our views are that vastly different.

Jib January 26, 2017 09:55AM

I feel like your problem with globalism is a problem with capitalism in general

vortexmagus January 26, 2017 01:40PM

You are confusing true Capitalism with Corporatism.

Jib January 27, 2017 09:23AM

A truly free market always favors the rich and well-connected

vortexmagus January 27, 2017 09:25AM

Full stop. I'm saying globalism isn't capitalism. Period.

Jib January 27, 2017 11:47AM

Right, this is what I was saying, I was saying that you're blaming globalism for stuff that is inherent to all forms of capitalism.

vortexmagus January 28, 2017 11:18AM

He's blaming globalism for making that shit global (n/t)

Kstatida January 29, 2017 12:19AM

Dude, you know no shit, seriously

Kstatida January 27, 2017 09:42AM

No. No, they don't.

MiyagiYojimbo January 27, 2017 02:46PM

Geography isn't mandatory?

Murphy January 27, 2017 03:28PM

Want to know a secret?

MiyagiYojimbo January 27, 2017 06:10PM

Looks right to me. I wonder why all the blue islands have dragons. (n/t)

Matrik January 27, 2017 05:24PM

Haha. "Blue islands." #LAPR (n/t)

Murphy January 28, 2017 01:04AM

Think of it more like a poker game

Quas January 27, 2017 10:32AM

I'm confused at what point I mentioned a perfectly competitive market?

vortexmagus January 27, 2017 09:57AM

Exactly, so please don't use the term "free market"

Kstatida January 27, 2017 01:15PM

But what do we call your wife's vagina then? NT

Sam January 28, 2017 04:52PM

Think you meant dessert. (n/t)

Matrik January 28, 2017 05:14PM

Not when you give head. Dryer than a dessert. NT

Sam January 28, 2017 05:53PM

2/10 for effort.

Matrik January 28, 2017 06:21PM

C'mon, that's at least a 4/10 for the original subject line. NT

Sam January 28, 2017 06:38PM

No market is perfectly free and competitive, but functionally people advocate for deregulation of markets all the time. (n/t)

vortexmagus January 27, 2017 11:26PM

Please specify "people"

Kstatida January 28, 2017 12:57AM

Trump and Putin, to name two prominent ones. Their policies on oil and gas, in particular, are globalist and push deregulation. (n/t)

vortexmagus January 28, 2017 04:08PM

free market n/t

jalim January 27, 2017 01:39PM

This: but redistribution also tricky to implement without making it unfair for hardworking middle class or reducing incentives (n/t)

starbright January 26, 2017 10:01PM

Redistribution will ALWAYS reduce incentives.

vortexmagus January 27, 2017 08:20AM

Re: I don't think our point our views are that vastly different.

Kstatida January 26, 2017 12:20PM

It's a good article

Flipside Oreo January 24, 2017 04:29AM

That's a good article, I enjoyed reading it. Do you have more such articles from similar perspectives?

starbright January 24, 2017 12:20AM

I mean I agree with you on every count

vortexmagus January 24, 2017 04:55AM

I propose "Democratic Objective-Setting with Technocratic Execution" form of government

starbright January 24, 2017 05:53AM

Well that's a good question, but I can't think of any that are English-speaking.

Kstatida January 24, 2017 04:02AM



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